MPC X & MPC Live Forum: Support and discussion for the MPC X & MPC Live, Akai's current generation of standalone MPCs.
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By zangetsu01 Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:12 am
CharlesRandolph wrote:Are you doing all these workout around in the MPC Software DAW? If yes, why not just use a much more capable Software DAW?


Hi Charles,

It’s because I do like the MPC software for what it ‘can’ do. Using the MPC software as plug-in isn’t all that either.

I’ve tried. Programming the start and stop buttons results in hit and miss. The MPC plug-in randomly crashes for unknown reasons.

This was back in 1.97. Don’t know how things are right now. I kind of developed an workflow with the MPC that I like very much.

And in the end I want to stay away from the pc as much as possible.

I only want to turn to the pc for the vst’s just like I would if I had external hardware effects, synths, instruments, etc.

That’s the workflow I’m aiming for. Just need Automation Lanes to get there. :worthy:
By CharlesRandolph Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:17 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:
Hi Charles,

It’s because I do like the MPC software for what it ‘can’ do. Using the MPC software as plug-in isn’t all that either.

I’ve tried. Programming the start and stop buttons results in hit and miss. The MPC plug-in randomly crashes for unknown reasons.

This was back in 1.97. Don’t know how things are right now. I kind of developed an workflow with the MPC that I like very much.

And in the end I want to stay away from the pc as much as possible.

I only want to turn to the pc for the vst’s just like I would if I had external hardware effects, synths, instruments, etc.

That’s the workflow I’m aiming for. Just need Automation Lanes to get there. :worthy:


That's understandable, but you did state that you only use your MPC X in controller mode. Which would mean that you're using your PC, 100% of the time. Perhaps I'm missing something.
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By zangetsu01 Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:04 pm
It means that I’m using it like a standalone user in controller mode. But only with all the extra horse power, Sub busses, audio tracks and vst capabilities that the computer had to offer.

In controller mode you can still operate the touchscreen like a stand aloner but you’ll get all these extras.
By CharlesRandolph Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:15 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:It means that I’m using it like a standalone user in controller mode. But only with all the extra horse power, Sub busses, audio tracks and vst capabilities that the computer had to offer.

In controller mode you can still operate the touchscreen like a stand aloner but you’ll get all these extras.


So you are essentially foregoing the mouse. :)
By Frisbi Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:15 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:It means that I’m using it like a standalone user in controller mode. But only with all the extra horse power, Sub busses, audio tracks and vst capabilities that the computer had to offer.

In controller mode you can still operate the touchscreen like a stand aloner but you’ll get all these extras.

Ok one question.
I have never used the software, always standalone.
If you connect Live with a Mac and open the software, where is the sound processed? I mean, is the output going out from Mpc or from the Mac (or audio card)?
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By zangetsu01 Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:31 pm
Frisbi wrote:
zangetsu01 wrote:It means that I’m using it like a standalone user in controller mode. But only with all the extra horse power, Sub busses, audio tracks and vst capabilities that the computer had to offer.

In controller mode you can still operate the touchscreen like a stand aloner but you’ll get all these extras.

Ok one question.
I have never used the software, always standalone.
If you connect Live with a Mac and open the software, where is the sound processed? I mean, is the output going out from Mpc or from the Mac (or audio card)?


The sound is going to be processed on the computer but will be routed to the outputs of the MPC (if that’s how you’ve set it up in preferences).
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By zangetsu01 Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:03 pm
Frisbi wrote:@ zangetsu01

Great thanks.
So I can use Live with a computer but the quality of the output sound is the same as standalone?
Anyone made a comparison?


With all the modern technology of today I doubt that it will sound any different. With 44.4khz at 24bit It sounds the same as my komplete audio 6 or any other soundcard with these specs. Just crystal clear unmodified sound.

Maybe someone else can chime in..
By Frisbi Sat Jan 05, 2019 7:16 pm
zangetsu01 wrote:
Frisbi wrote:@ zangetsu01

Great thanks.
So I can use Live with a computer but the quality of the output sound is the same as standalone?
Anyone made a comparison?


With all the modern technology of today I doubt that it will sound any different. With 44.4khz at 24bit It sounds the same as my komplete audio 6 or any other soundcard with these specs. Just crystal clear unmodified sound.

Maybe someone else can chime in..

Well actually one of the things I like of Live is the output sound.
It sounds better then any soundcard I used before.
I use it standalone mainly because of this, because it sounds powerful and detailed.
Any expert chime in?
By CharlesRandolph Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:29 am
Frisbi wrote:Well actually one of the things I like of Live is the output sound.
It sounds better then any soundcard I used before.
I use it standalone mainly because of this, because it sounds powerful and detailed.
Any expert chime in?



Want to test your input gain stage, sample this 0db 24 bit - 44.1 - Sine wave and and turn up your input gain knob and check the input meters on the MPC. It should register 0 with no peaking. If it peaks, slowly turn down the gain knob until it hits zero.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kDNDqr ... sp=sharing

Once you sample it, assign it to the pad and export it with the track fader and master fader at zero. Then compare the two SINE Waves and listen to the difference.

*Do not normalize it, do not add any effects when sampling, on the pad, or on the master fader. Your testing to see if you sample it at 0bd, does it play and export at 0bd.
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By zangetsu01 Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:34 am
But I heard that the MPC automatically assigns an filter to the pads in the drum programs.

Not sure if its lpf2 or hp2. Even tough the cut off frequency is all the way low it somehow still effects the sound.

Program >> LFO >> Filter
By sinik Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:11 am
zangetsu01 wrote:But I heard that the MPC automatically assigns an filter to the pads in the drum programs.

Not sure if its lpf2 or hp2. Even tough the cut off frequency is all the way low it somehow still effects the sound.

Program >> LFO >> Filter


that's by default. change this in the settings menu you can either switch to another filter, or turn it off so that there is no filter applied.
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By toodee Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:47 am
Frisbi wrote:@ Frisbi

Great thanks.
So I can use Live with a computer but the quality of the output sound is the same as standalone?
Anyone made a comparison?

With all the modern technology of today I doubt that it will sound any different. With 44.4khz at 24bit It sounds the same as my komplete audio 6 or any other soundcard with these specs. Just crystal clear unmodified sound.

Maybe someone else can chime in..

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Well actually one of the things I like of Live is the output sound.
It sounds better then any soundcard I used before.
I use it standalone mainly because of this, because it sounds powerful and detailed.
Any expert chime in?


It all depends on the soundcard used with the computer, but indeed any decent soundcard should give you the same result. I use an RME Fireface UC, it's definitely way better than the MPC but given its price, it's normal. Also, the difference in quality is more noticeable when using the inputs to sample, not so much on the outputs. If you are using the internal sound chipset on your motherboard, the MPC will definitely be an improvement.
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By Menco Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:47 pm
I wish the X and Live had a similair home screen like the JJOS XL. With a small grid edit overview that in this case opens grid edit mode by tapping the grid.
Same for the mixer in the lower part of the screen which displays a more traditional mixer view with the option to toggle between pad mixer and program mixer.

I would also like to have the option to copy and paste file names, co-sign on allowing the Copy/ Delete button more functionality than just copying and deleting pads. Copying/ deleting selcted notes in grid edit and letting the Delete button function like the Erase button on the 2500.

Option to clear memory instead of opening a new project, option to overwrite a sequence when loading a sequence, option to overwrite a sample when turning it from stereo to mono.