Monotremata wrote:zangetsu01 wrote:But now I’ve learned that it has to do with Ableton Link.. Not the buildin mixer..
Ahh so basically nothing anyone cares about then..
40Beatz wrote::lol:
I'm just curious.....What Standalone Product Out right now, is comparable to the Live/X..?
Exactly.....The X/Live are in a Class by themselves. I believe a lot of People are migrating from Software to the X/Live. So I can understand why they're not happy with the X/Live. 
Menco wrote:If 2.7 won’t deliver I will sell my Live. I only use the Live and the software to import the beats I made on the 2500 into Logic in pluginmode. I simply miss too many things on the Live. Arranging, automation and the mixer sucks, the software sucks for adding VST’s to my projects so I never really mess with the software. All the features are more distracting to me than beneficial when building loops and foundations quickly. For me it just tries to do too many things without really excelling in one, eventhough I’m still hoping for that all in one box solution, allthough I start to believe that the perfect all in one box doesn’t exist for me. So for now I stick to dedicated tools for specific tasks. I’ll give the Live one more chance with 2.7, but right now I am already thinking of where I put the original packaging to put the Live in.
CharlesRandolph wrote:The machine is more then capable, but with the way GUI is setup. Most users of the old machine have to adjust their workflow. I remember going from tape to cassette to ADAT to Digital Recorders to Computer Based recording. Each one of those formats required a different mind state.
Many times we have to abandon our old MPC's. Then we are forced to rely on the new MPC's. Which makes us rethink how we do things. Sometimes, we run into a creative block, so we buy gear to help in hopes, it gets us out of it. But normally that's a very temporary solution. Because once the new gear smell wears off, we're end up back in the hole.
So we buy more gear, to fill that hole. (Gear Lust Cycle) Now we're stuck with a room full of gear, that we don't use or want. In those time, people have to learn to compose different forms of music, with different key signatures, instruments, and timing. Which can all be done on most MPC's.
To wrap it up, these firmware updates, will not fix our issues. Because if a person uses a machine 3 hours a week. Multi-channel, Multitimbral, or Disk Streaming will not fix the lack of time dedicated to their craft.
Elektrobolt wrote:I cannot speak for you, but me, I will be set with being able to use MIDI Out and In, assigned to channels, plus being able to use USB MIDI In and Out, MIDI Pad Mapping, Time Signatures. I.e. basically completing the lack of a decent MIDI implementation.
Also, I think there are quite a few improvements that could be implemented that would actually enhance software maintainability in the long run. And, having read about the various XML schemas Akai has created over the years, why not move forward and allow conversion of older formats to newer ones with new functionality that people wants. No need to USE the older XML formats to store in new projects.
Menco wrote:If 2.7 won’t deliver I will sell my Live. I only use the Live and the software to import the beats I made on the 2500 into Logic in pluginmode. I simply miss too many things on the Live. Arranging, automation and the mixer sucks, the software sucks for adding VST’s to my projects so I never really mess with the software. All the features are more distracting to me than beneficial when building loops and foundations quickly. For me it just tries to do too many things without really excelling in one, eventhough I’m still hoping for that all in one box solution, allthough I start to believe that the perfect all in one box doesn’t exist for me. So for now I stick to dedicated tools for specific tasks. I’ll give the Live one more chance with 2.7, but right now I am already thinking of where I put the original packaging to put the Live in.
Lampdog wrote:Menco wrote:If 2.7 won’t deliver I will sell my Live. I only use the Live and the software to import the beats I made on the 2500 into Logic in pluginmode. I simply miss too many things on the Live. Arranging, automation and the mixer sucks, the software sucks for adding VST’s to my projects so I never really mess with the software. All the features are more distracting to me than beneficial when building loops and foundations quickly. For me it just tries to do too many things without really excelling in one, eventhough I’m still hoping for that all in one box solution, allthough I start to believe that the perfect all in one box doesn’t exist for me. So for now I stick to dedicated tools for specific tasks. I’ll give the Live one more chance with 2.7, but right now I am already thinking of where I put the original packaging to put the Live in.
Really that bad?
Menco wrote:Off course it does so much more than most MPC’s, but too many things that just aren’t right yet. I don’t mind to workaround things, but now my workaround is using the 2500 and Logic, which I even like more than working with the Live. Messing with the Live also taught me that I rather have more tools that are very good at doing one thing, instead of working with one piece that does so many things halfass.
