By Lampdog
Sat May 27, 2023 1:13 am
There’s no weakness.
Lampdog wrote:You knew not to expect much from it from the get go when it was marketed to have used the same physical circuitry as old hardware samplers.
You knew that.
Lampdog wrote:There’s no weakness.
Lampdog wrote:You knew not to expect much from it from the get go when it was marketed to have used the same physical circuitry as old hardware samplers.
You knew that.
johnnytravels wrote:Yeah that was actually a really shitty move in the Renaissance marketing.
BKLYN wrote:The MPC Vintage Mode is weak AF...
MPC-Tutor wrote:johnnytravels wrote:Yeah that was actually a really shitty move in the Renaissance marketing.
Plus the discovery that SP1200 'ring mode' was just a patch for the Decimator plugin. Likely suggests that all the other vintage modes are probably just a combination of EQ and resampler rather than modelling.
SuperKonquer wrote:With all the tools we have now, Akai could probably redo or add new filter modes to vastly improve them. With transient, flavor, amp sim, diode clipper, compressors, eqs, etc etc they could go town on filter mode. I'm certain they could capture punch and grit and randomness or whatever other perceived magic of analog. Maybe they'll revist the filter modes now that this hoopla about sonics has reared it's head.
B-Wise wrote:SuperKonquer wrote:With all the tools we have now, Akai could probably redo or add new filter modes to vastly improve them. With transient, flavor, amp sim, diode clipper, compressors, eqs, etc etc they could go town on filter mode. I'm certain they could capture punch and grit and randomness or whatever other perceived magic of analog. Maybe they'll revist the filter modes now that this hoopla about sonics has reared it's head.
But can't the user use those tools to do it for themselves?
SuperKonquer wrote:Sure it's possible, but many don't have the ear or willing to figure out the combo needed to hit that sweet spot. Akai/Air built these plugins so will have a more intricate knowledge of what plugin can accomplish what and what weaknesses exist and pitfalls to avoid. More importantly, making filter chains in a mode instead of having to use 3,4,8 plugins would save resources and they can exclude data not needed to shape the sound.
There is a broad user base, so you can never know what sounds hit each user just right, so filter mode should have 100+ presets and maybe even one or 2 knobs to boost or attenuate whatever character elements that define the sound. The current lines are more transparent and plenty capable of sounding more colored. Even though those tools already exist, because they are not in easy mode they can be/are being overlooked/ignored. I for one would welcome easy mode filters instead of trying to play plug in Lego.
BKLYN wrote:
I strongly agree Inphonik is a great developer highly skilled in modeling hardware with attention to detail. The very first thing I noticed a few years ago when I started using the RX950 is that it sounds incredibly close to my Akai S900 and the upgrade they put out (I think a year or two ago) nailed it!
B-Wise wrote:SuperKonquer wrote:With all the tools we have now, Akai could probably redo or add new filter modes to vastly improve them. With transient, flavor, amp sim, diode clipper, compressors, eqs, etc etc they could go town on filter mode. I'm certain they could capture punch and grit and randomness or whatever other perceived magic of analog. Maybe they'll revist the filter modes now that this hoopla about sonics has reared it's head.
But can't the user use those tools to do it for themselves?