MIDI connectivity over WiFi/Ethernet between Force / iPad

Hi, I'm trying to establish a MIDI connection over WiFi/Ethernet between my Force and an iPad. I can connect both devices to a WiFi hub just fine, but the iPad isn't sending/receiving MIDI over that WiFi connection (MIDI-over-WiFi doesn't even show up in the available MIDI connections on the iPad). I tried connecting the Force to the WiFi hub via Ethernet as well, same results.

Am I missing something obvious, or is this not possible? I thought both devices support MIDI over WiFi/Ethernet, and am trying to make that work.

A little background information:

I initially connected the iPad to my Force via MIDI-over-Bluetooth, and that works. The issue is that this connection is rather unreliable (it will randomly disconnect), and I can't have that happen when I'm playing a show! So I want to try WiFi instead of Bluetooth for the wireless connectivity, which I'm assuming will be more reliable.

All I really need is for the Force to send a few MIDI notes to the iPad to trigger videos on the TouchViz video player app on the iPad. This works when connecting the Force to the iPad via MIDI-over-Bluetooth, so this really is an issue with the MIDI-over-WiFi part.

A MIDI dongle connected via the iPad Lightning port will not work since that port is needed to send the video signal from the iPad to the projection system.

I did come across this in my research, but I'd rather not spend $500 (and deal with another device), assuming that it should be possible to make MIDI connectivity over WiFi happen between the Force to the iPad without needing anything else?

Sorry, can't solve your problem, but how about using a wired connection?

Or another software application. If it didn't have to be TouchViz, and an iPad... Could it be, say, a Raspberry Pi and some VJ video player?

I can't use a wired connection because the Lightning port on the iPad is taken up by a HDMI dongle for video-out.

But your suggestion of looking into another platform is a good one! There's no reason I have to use that iPad. I really just need something with a HDMI out that can trigger playback of MP4 files via incoming MIDI. If you happen to know of any hardware/software combo that can do that, I'm all ears

Definitely going to look into a Raspberry Pi, too!

Akai doesn't support rtpMIDI , so it doesn't work over ethernet (or wifi)

You might try OEM adaptors , something like this



Maybe both HDMI and usb port (for connecting a usb midi interface) could work

Yeah, I found out that the Force doesn't to rtpMIDI, so I ended up using an iConnectivity iConnectMIDI4+ as a rtpMIDI session initiator and MIDI translator (all connected via a WiFi hub). So that's two additional boxes, and, perhaps unsurprisingly, that setup was even *less* reliable than the MIDI-over-Bluetooth connectivity I've been using that is native to both the Force and the iPad.

Those 3rd party adapters are a great idea actually! If I can get wired USB/MIDI connectivity AND HDMI out on my iPad, my problem would be solved, so I'm going to try that.

I'm also going to see what iPad news Apple will share soon for their new lineup before investing in more dongles.

Timo wrote: I'm also going to see what iPad news Apple will share soon for their new lineup before investing in more dongles.

All iPads already have usb type C , so (finally) no more adapters

Thank you - this worked!

For the record, here's the HDMI/USB-to-Lightning adapter I used:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T34MCSV

And here's the USB-to-MIDI adapter I used:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BH8DHCLY

Two things to keep in mind: Make sure to upgrade toe CME adapter to its latest firmware (really easy to do with their software that runs on a PC or Mac), and make sure to connect a power supply to the HDMI adapter via the Lightning port on it if you want to run both the MIDI adapter off of its USB port *and* the HDMI connector at the same time.

This saved me the expense of buying a new iPad

Nice , maybe you can share some footage with Force playing and triggering clips on iPad , it sounds very interesting

OK, let me see if I can dig up some video footage from our last gig. If not, we will have a videographer at our next gig in November, so I should be able to post something then for sure!