Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the new 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai. While not an MPC, it shares many similar software features to the MPC X/MPC Live including the same underlying code-base.
By CyrilDavidson Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:17 pm
Hi All,

If I record MIDI data including pitch bend into a clip, everything works as expected when I am launching rows or individual clips. However, if I record that 'performance' to the Arranger, notes and velocities are all there as expected but all the pitch bend data is missing (as is modulation and aftertouch).

If I manually select all the events in the original clip, copy them and then paste them into the Arranger timeline, it's still only the notes and velocities that are copied in. If I re-record the pitch bend/modulation movements directly into the Arranger then the events all appear in the Automation editor as expected. I am assuming I'm doing something wrong/weird but I have no idea what.

Anyone got any ideas?

(And am I the only one who finds it tricky to navigate between editing the track events in the Arranger and editing the original clips? I always seem to have to try a few things before I get to where I want ... :hmmm: )

In case it matters I'm on v3.3.0.

By B-Wise Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:39 am
Can't help with the pitch stuff, but to help understand the Force seq better look at from the top on down:

When you press clip the first tab/section is the Arranger then the Clip tabs & finally the List editor.

It may help to think of the Force as a dual sequencer with the Arranger & Clip matrix both running together at the same pace/tempo but in different lanes. You can use both lanes or only one, but not both at the same time. That's why you need to be aware of which lane your in by using the "Back to Arranger" buttons in the Arranger section which determines what sequencer (Arranger/Clip) data will play.

There's also the option to have the Arranger Track/Clip show at the top of the Clip matrix (sorry but forgot how to get there, but it might be Shift+Launch).

If you select Legato for your clips in 1 of the Clip tabs, you can seamlessly switch between different clips & the Arranger in real-time...cool AF!
By CyrilDavidson Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:52 am
Hi B-Wise,

Thanks for that - it was the use of the Back to Arranger button that I was missing I think. I'll give that a go next time I fire it up. I already have the Arranger row at the top of my Clip Matrix and I agree, the Force in general is cool AF :)

I actually have a clunky workaround for the other missing MIDI data which will do for now; I recorded the Clip contents to an external sequencer (I used Reason last night for instance) and then played that back while recording into the Arranger. Not ideal and note timing and pitch bend resolution was a bit wonky but it got the data in there so I could correct it.

While doing that I noticed that if you do have MIDI data (including pitch bend) in an Arranger lane and you try to cut/copy and paste it to another point in the track, the pitch bend data stays in place and isn't copied/moved. That leads me to think that the Arranger has some serious bugs in terms of transferring MIDI data other than note and velocity. I'm really surprised by that.