Akai Force Forum: Everything relating to the Akai Force, the new 64 pad, clip-based standalone sampler/groovebox from Akai. While not an MPC, it shares many similar software features to the MPC X/MPC Live including the same underlying code-base.
By CFM01 Mon Jul 29, 2019 12:09 am
Ok, as a former owner of the Live and now a new owner of a Force what can i say about which one you should get after a few days with Force.

First the Force is technically not a MPC, although has many of the features of the MPC range, but it’s not one. At the moment it can’t run the MPC 2.0 software. This currently limits you to its internal plugins and effects. Currently there is also no song mode. You just launch clips in matrix mode much like in ableton live. So you can launch just one clip, clips, or a row of clips as the matrix is columns and rows. If you have been using Ableton Live in this way then you will be at home with the Force.

So if you have Ableton Live with Push then you may think do I really need Force? Because basically Force has ‘Ableton Like’ features as a controller like Push. Which makes it a sort of hybrid Ableton Controller come 90% MPC but not... as sampling is much like a MPC and runs the same operating software. I think where the Force excels is in a live situation and here it is perhaps better suited than MPC Live, certainly the X which is less portable. MPC Live is great as it can run on battery so you can take it anywhere, the Force and X are mains powered so I’d say Force is about maximum size you would want to travel with.

Saying this I never ran MPC Live as a standalone, for most part is ran as a VST within Ableton Live, which meant I had to carry MPC Live and a laptop plus my soundcard.

So... in the UK MPC Live is around £900, Force £1300, MPC X £1800. Force has midi and CV wheres MPC live has no CV. The firmware on the Force is behind that of the Live and X although my catch up in time. I’m unsure if Force will never run full MPC software. If money is no problem and you are not worried about carrying then I’d get the X. If you own ableton live, gig live and don’t have push then it’s worth considering force, the cheaper option still is MPC Live.
By CFM01 Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:06 pm
Ok, I’ve spent a lot more time with the Force and it is time for a little update.

This update wants to address a few issues that have been debated elsewhere. I think why they have been debated is because people do not understand how the Force fits in Akai’s product range. The first issue is about MPC software. The Force does not come with any software.... none, zero. So do you need any... such as MPC software.

The Force is not an MPC... so if you want MPC 2.0 software then you need to buy an MPC X or MPC Live. Both these machines, ok can work as standalone, but are designed to run MPC software either in your DAW or a VST within your DAW. Force is not designed to run MPC software. I can see the confusion as the top half of the Force looks, breaths and smells like an MPC with the bottom part a Akai designed chopped up Ableton Push controller. However, in the flesh the guts of the Force maybe has the DNA of an MPC but physically is layout is much more well thought out.

Editing within the Force is easy, copy, paste, delete are at hand, the inbuilt VST are fine although I would you will need to spend time with them to get the best out of them. I can see the Force being the centre of a music system especially in a live situation.

There are still a few missing things with the Force, it does all the first parts great, sampling sounds, creating sequences, all put in scenes however fails at the last part creating a song. I understand Akai know this is a feature required by users and will be addressed in a later update. For now testing starts on wireless control of Ableton Live. It will be interesting to see how this developes.