By kazakore
Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:31 pm
I originally bought the MPC Live 2 coming from the 2500 and annoyed with some of the limitations of it. Recently I've bought a Oxi One and do 90% of the sequencing on that (including drums) and am really not a finger drummer (although part of sticking to an MPC as thinking maybe I would at some points.) This is making me think the Force may fit to my workflow better but I'm finding it hard to find a concise list/description of their differences. Plus there are bugs on the MPC which impede my workflow that wont be mentioned in any comparison guide.
Is the Force any better than the MPCs being controlled by MIDI? By that I mean:
- The MIDI Mapping page looks identical in the videos I've watched. Is it limiting in the same way as the MPC that is merges all devices and only references by Channel and CC or Note, not by Device?
- The MPC gets very glitchy in MIDI Learn once you have more than about 20-30 mappings. It starts changing them randomly, setting the Type to None and weird things like that. Does the Force have this bug or is it smoother in this department?
- Does the Force have the bug where pressing the Shift buttons kills all incoming MIDI?
- Does the Force have the Note Off bug where the MPC kills notes on the wrong channels when receiving Note Offs from external MIDI sometimes?
I do quite a lot of automation recording on the MPC, using a MIDI Instrument (Track on Force.) This works well in Overdub mode with only parameters which have been moved during the current loop of the Sequence (Cell) are changed and once a change has been seen it will record new data until the end of the loop. The Force seems to only have a Record button and not Overdub, how does it handle with recording in MIDI automation in this manner? If it does work smoothly like this the idea of being able to move into a blank Cell in the same Track to basically delete all automation at once will be a great improvement.
I use MIDI Instruments (Tracks) quite a lot for MIDI routing. I assume this works the same on the Force? It looks to have the same options in the manual so I think it will.
I know I can't load entire Projects from the MPC but I browse to an MPC Project Data folder and load Instruments to Tracks from there without having to save them separately?
Does the disk streaming apply to Drum and Keygroup samples? If so the shorter loading times could well be useful live.
Is the Force any better than the MPCs being controlled by MIDI? By that I mean:
- The MIDI Mapping page looks identical in the videos I've watched. Is it limiting in the same way as the MPC that is merges all devices and only references by Channel and CC or Note, not by Device?
- The MPC gets very glitchy in MIDI Learn once you have more than about 20-30 mappings. It starts changing them randomly, setting the Type to None and weird things like that. Does the Force have this bug or is it smoother in this department?
- Does the Force have the bug where pressing the Shift buttons kills all incoming MIDI?
- Does the Force have the Note Off bug where the MPC kills notes on the wrong channels when receiving Note Offs from external MIDI sometimes?
I do quite a lot of automation recording on the MPC, using a MIDI Instrument (Track on Force.) This works well in Overdub mode with only parameters which have been moved during the current loop of the Sequence (Cell) are changed and once a change has been seen it will record new data until the end of the loop. The Force seems to only have a Record button and not Overdub, how does it handle with recording in MIDI automation in this manner? If it does work smoothly like this the idea of being able to move into a blank Cell in the same Track to basically delete all automation at once will be a great improvement.
I use MIDI Instruments (Tracks) quite a lot for MIDI routing. I assume this works the same on the Force? It looks to have the same options in the manual so I think it will.
I know I can't load entire Projects from the MPC but I browse to an MPC Project Data folder and load Instruments to Tracks from there without having to save them separately?
Does the disk streaming apply to Drum and Keygroup samples? If so the shorter loading times could well be useful live.