99% OF DRUMKITS SUCK,ESPECIALLY THESE MEDIOCRE SNARES

There's plenty to find in Amsterdam.

I know Velvet has a great outlet in Leiden with over 50.000 records. Good pop, rock and soul, a bit poor on the jazz.

jpeg wrote:i know peeps get ill drums off 80s pop/electro specially snares when u filter em right kicks lpf and u can make anyhting sound official dam near

If you live in Amsterdam get yourself over to Utrecht in April for the worlds biggest record fair. I went in November and it was amazing. Spent 200 Euro's on the first day!

http://www.recordplanet.nl/

I was in Utrecht for that fair 2!! AMAZING!!

sometimes people forget that there isn't anything wrong with sampling drum hits from hip hop or your favourite modern records.....

If I can't be bothered to layer and eq breaks I will just take a loop off a hip hop record an then chop it up an mess with em just a tiny bit so you couldn't easily tag them as being from that track. It was only today that I took a loop from a that quanum spectrum album an chopped the drums an made my own kit.

I know people will think this isn't correct behaviour but **** it, you really cant tell where the drums are from anyway...

only prob with this method an I'm not sure if it's me just being pedantic but the kits you make this way are obviously post production an mixed by pro engineers, combine that with some old israeli folk chops an you get a serious clash an you find yourself spending more times making the mix equal out rather than if you sample old records you start from scratch and bring the mix (if you want) to a level where it sounds like something from 2010.

by the way, Haternob, are you from shipley in Yorkshire?

for anyone wanting some free samples...

http://www.primeloops.com/index.php?page=free-pack

Free Samples via Zero Divide

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/korger1.zip
Made these just before I sold my Korg ER-1. They aren't properly cut up, unfortunately, but it isn't like it isn't hard to slice them down to size. This is just a bunch of sounds I synthesized to try to cover all of the possibilities that this machine had to offer.

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/kraftydrums.zip
Did these up last night using the MFB Kraftzwerg to synthesize drums and such from scratch. I did cut out the silences on these and normalized, however it should be noted that on a couple of these I ran the input on the MPC just a teensy bit too hot, so a couple of the samples distort a tiny bit (though it's actually a nice effect on the kicks.)

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/mfb522.zip
MFB 522. There's not much here as I was sampling these so that I could experiment with different processing methods, but this is a nice little simple drum kit here.

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/rolandmc09.zip
These are all of the drum sounds from the Roland MC-09. There's a few repeats in here because the kits are made up from a small pool of samples and I was just flying through getting all of the kits sampled. I don't think I've chopped these up either.

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/frxsdrums.zip
Inspired by Wave Alchemy's collection, here's a small selection of Future Retro XS drums. Not nearly as varied as the Wave Alchemy set, but still a good demonstration for myself as to the capabilities of this unit.

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/jomoxmbase01.zip
This is all of the preset sounds and a couple of sounds I built of my own for the Jomox MBase01.

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/dr550mkii.zip
Complete collection of all of the drum sounds on the Boss DR-550mkii. (A lot of the sample sets floating around on the interwebs don't have all of the sounds in them.)

http://audio-kinetic.iswiz.com/stuff/dotcomdrums.zip
And this is just a quick little goof-off thing with my Dot Com system doing a couple of basic drum sounds.

padlock wrote:

jpeg wrote:i know peeps get ill drums off 80s pop/electro specially snares when u filter em right kicks lpf and u can make anyhting sound official dam near

worst part is... he's actually right, you can get good stuff from 80s electro. It just depends on what you are trying to make... but there are dope samples to be had in that section.

i think you get the best drums from old records, you can do so much with them breaks. And yeah, Amsterdam is absolutely dope for vinyl! Me and my brother were there on a Sunday and all the stores were open. I thought that was quite amazing cuz you can´t go shopping wax on Sundays in Austria. Most shops were small but then the selection was HUGE. I could have spent the whole day in jus 1 of them.

I used to be annoyed by garbage drum kits so now I like to re-use drums I've already sampled. But if I do that I'll run my turntable through a phono preamp and through a parametric EQ and then through a compressor and reverb processor to give them new sounds.

Fung45 wrote:

DJ JEFF wrote:

Jean Claude Trans Am wrote:Buy records

got about 500

Buy more

Mad props. It's crazy thinking that you went through every record, and multiple times through others.

I've been dappling around with my MPC more often day by day. And I tell you, filtering is imperative in creating a drum kit. You can manipulate a mediocre drum by using filtering and adsr envelopes. I'll try to mess around with filtering sometimes and play a one bar drum loop from one of my favorite artist and do my best to emulate that (acourse, I'll never be able to get that Dilla snare). Filtering and ADSR are your friends, you can't go wrong. No matter how whack the drum may sound to you..you can make that whack drum a complete inverse and fatten it up. You can take a damn snare and make it into a hi hat if u wanted too..you could make a snare sound like a snap too. Just have fun and mess around with those envs and filters.

man, there are so many different sounds you could layer with, so that alone should be enough to get away from generic sounding drums.. Also, generic sounding drumhits can work well in non-generic patterns..

But really, any drum hit can be turned to gold if its combined with the right component/s and/or put in the right or sometimes not right context

Imo

eltoppo51 wrote:by the way, Haternob, are you from shipley in Yorkshire?

Sorry, I missed this!

I've just recently moved to Baildon which is still Shipley I suppose! Where you from dood?