Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By 1st Edition Sun Aug 01, 2010 9:32 am
scoobylol wrote:Someone also posted up an interesting article by Bob Katz called,

"An integrated approach to metering, monitoring, and levelling practices"

Bed time reading business :mrgreen:


Any chance you could post the link for that article? Thanks.
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By scoobylol Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:02 pm
1st Edition wrote:
scoobylol wrote:Someone also posted up an interesting article by Bob Katz called,

"An integrated approach to metering, monitoring, and levelling practices"

Bed time reading business :mrgreen:


Any chance you could post the link for that article? Thanks.


It's in the thread that brisk posted originally, it's within the first 8 pages I think. I printed it directly from there and I'm too lazy to find it again. Apologies.
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By scoobylol Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:08 pm
No they need to be peaking at -8, with the fader at 0 I believe. Unless that's what you meant... in which case yes!

When you think about the maths behind it, and the fact that most mastering engineers need a few db of headroom it makes a lot of sense. I've been working like this recently and it's amazing. Everything seems to have it's own space in the mix.
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:19 pm
Don't get me wrong, but I wonder sometimes if some folks that give this advice can actually back up those claims.

I'm curious to hear some material too.
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By scoobylol Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:57 pm
TheRiot wrote:Give us an example give us a link to your of your beats that you've mixed this way and what do you mean peak at 0? Do you mean set your drums to minus 8 and when they are at there loudest point they would be at 0?


Their loudest point would be peaking at about -8, the fader will be at 0db. Which leaves a lot of headroom on each channel.

Having each element peaking near 0db, doesn't leave a lot of headroom so you have to pull down the master fader to allow enough for a mastering engineer to play with. You can do this but apparently it's not very accurate in a DAW, according to the article anyway, i'm only relaying what I've read there... Due to the inaccuracy of the reading you may still be getting little peaks here and there which can cause issues.

Basically he's set out rough volume guidelines to get consistent results each time you make a tune, allowing enough room for a mastering engineer to work their magic.

Give it a go yourself, like I said i've personally found each element has more room to breathe. It doesn't sound like everything is competing for volume, although obviously the outcome is far quieter than normal, but that's to be expected. I have no idea how or why it works. It won't make much difference if I post any tunes because you have nothing to reference them too, in terms of previous mixes.
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By scoobylol Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:02 pm
dabmeister wrote:Don't get me wrong, but I wonder sometimes if some folks that give this advice can actually back up those claims.

I'm curious to hear some material too.


I imagine there's a lot of different ways to approach mixing, but I wouldn't doubt Macc. He is a top notch producer. Definitely knows his stuff, and has had releases on some special labels. His advice is also going to be more geared towards the style of music he makes and the medium it is released on.
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By elevated Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:55 pm
That was a cool perspective.

Here's my question though-- When dude wrote "The drums around -8 Db," was he assuming that we have all drum sounds going together on one bus? Or just kick and snare together, or what?