Sung Chorus

Whatsup,

I got a question that some of y'all might call me stupid for haha, but I'ma ask it anyway.

I was just wondering how some producers put the sung chorus of their record which they've sampled in their beats. There's really too much beats that have this, but let me give some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQ13DtFoV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWjC_YmNGoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8wTYTwyXlo

Do they just make sure they get a perfect loop of it and cut it in like 1/8?

thanks

sincerely, forever been wondering

Maybe I'm not understanding the question. Seems like they just time the sample to fit the beat or vice versa. How it's chopped doesn't really seem relevant.

Yeah, I think i understand, I sometimes have the same problem. Most of the time, the tempo of the songs you sample doesn't stay exactly the same. It depends of the sample,but I think you have to chop it most of the time. 1/8 might be fine,sometimes you'll have to chop it into shorter parts, and sometimes you don't even need to chop.

Just try and listen, make sure it falls in place with the beat, and it will work

The Dilated Peoples and the Lowkey songs just use a different part of the sampled song for the chorus. In fact, I'd say most hip hop songs out there do this. The Atmosphere song is an exception, and if you listen closely to it, you can hear the vocals drifting out of tempo toward the end of the phrase ("smile"). Still, it works just fine (arguably even better than if it had been mangled to rigidly fit the tempo)... There's no rule of thumb for stuff like this (or art in general, for that matter).

Thanks, I know that they are just other parts of the song, but Lets say for instance that your beat is 90 bpm, and the record is 105, how do you make it work, So you can perhaps still play drums over it?? Thx

Maybe chopping in very little parts.Or timestretch maybe, I don't use it so I can't tell but I guess it can work.

A trick I use sometimes, is using the MPC in 16 levels. Chop your vocal samples in little parts, for example 1/8. Record each of those chops on every 1/8. And then turn on 16 levels for each chop, and use 16 levels as a delay.
I'm not sure if it's clear

For example I used this trick for the hook of this track
http://soundcloud.com/borat1/20-find-the-truth

NightReveller wrote:Thanks, I know that they are just other parts of the song, but Lets say for instance that your beat is 90 bpm, and the record is 105, how do you make it work, So you can perhaps still play drums over it?? Thx

Start with the sample, and build the beat around that.

Sounds like you do the reverse, trying to make the sample fit the beat.

clint246clint wrote:

NightReveller wrote:Thanks, I know that they are just other parts of the song, but Lets say for instance that your beat is 90 bpm, and the record is 105, how do you make it work, So you can perhaps still play drums over it?? Thx

Start with the sample, and build the beat around that.

Sounds like you do the reverse, trying to make the sample fit the beat.

No, what I mean is, I made a beat with a sample, (instrumental), and I want to sample a vocal part of the same record and make that work for the hook, how do I do that?

usually if you chop your stuff up this doesn't end up being much of a problem

or start with the chorus like someone else said and go from there

NightReveller wrote:No, what I mean is, I made a beat with a sample, (instrumental), and I want to sample a vocal part of the same record and make that work for the hook, how do I do that?

either start with the vocal sample and work from there, or chop the vocal sample and pitch it to tune.. easy to do on an mpc or any software - though making it sound "right" isn't always that easy lol.

i think most songs that use this technique are using a vocal part from the song they made the rest of the beat with as well.. most people do that from what i can tell... thats really easy to do, song bpms dont vary THAT much throughout a song