nongraphical sample editing pros

Does anybody agree that making beats with non graphical editing (mpc60,3k,500, asr10 etc) has certain advantages? I feel like by not seeing the exact beginning & end points of the sample sometimes you inadvertently make more natural sounding arrangements.

The less I see, the more I hear.

vmt420 wrote:Does anybody agree that making beats with non graphical editing (mpc60,3k,500, asr10 etc) has certain advantages? I feel like by not seeing the exact beginning & end points of the sample sometimes you inadvertently make more natural sounding arrangements.

I see what you're saying

which would make sense since we percieve music with ears not eyes...you might come up with with some funky chops this way...but at the same time finding zero point can be bit more time consuming.

I still consider waveforms and resampling to edit samples a new thing even though it was introduced to samplers in the late '90s. I grew up on the DJ side of producing and learned from many greats of the wheels of steel from beat matching to cueing on time, which all demands the ear.

My first sampler was a Gemini DS-8 and that was a metal box with one button to trigger samples and a pitch slider, thats it. In order to get a perfect loop I had to time the trigger perfectly or try again from scratch. Spent many hours developing the skill to sample by ear to the point I found myself counting bars but I didn't know I was counting bars at the time, I just called them "parts of 4" because I would count 'one two three four, one two..etc'. Spent 4 years with that machine until my pops surprised me on my graduation with a Roland MS-1. That didn't have a waveform either but it can edit samples which to me was heaven because now I can just sample stuff in and chop it up later instead of waiting for the perfect time to record, but the skill from the DS-8 really helped to understand sampling and timing.

The SP-505 was my first sampler with waveform edit, but I didn't liked it after a few days trying it out because on the wave it looks perfectly trimmed but when I hit the pad the sound felt off. I then ignored the waveform and kept my eyes on the numbers to chop and trim and the sample sounded more natural. From that experience, I was never a fan of waveforms, though useful to quickly erase gaps of air and blank spaces.

Sorry for the long story but I wanted to share my experiences and views.

Peace

Lampdog wrote:

Ill-Green wrote:My first sampler was a Gemini DS-8

I forgot I had one briefly and after a few months I threw it into the ocean.
That trying over and over to get a perfect loop really pissed me off.

So you know what I went through for four long years. Nobody wanted to **** with it then. But for a hundred dollars at age 14 was like my whole life's savings so I had to tough it out.