Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By grandpricks Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:15 pm
i was listening to the chronic and noticed alot of dre's samples have a crispy widened sound to them and he seems to keep them in the background and play live instruments over them.

what's the best way to get that wide sound to a sample?


can it be done on the 1000 or in cool edit?

help me out bro

By grandpricks Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:37 pm
what i mean is the melody samples like in little ghetto boy the main loop sounds wide. i don't know does that make sense
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By Lampdog Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:27 am
Chorus effect in either cool edit or mpc. Possibly something else he does with it too..
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By cyrus Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:21 pm
you might need to involve a studio engineer to help you out.

Good mixing and sound shaping can do wonders. I mean, like eq....panning, then working effects in there.

but try making two copies of the sample......then panning one to the left, the other to the right, then mixing them together. it might work...duno.

part of getting it to sound like that is also your sound choice, and working with someone who knows the ins and outs of mixing sounds like that.....but you also have to maintain vision on your sounds when working with an engineer.

By cooocooo1 Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:17 pm
cyrus wrote:but try making two copies of the sample......then panning one to the left, the other to the right, then mixing them together. it might work...duno.


The above will give you a wide stereo sound just make sure to offset the copy by a few(probably more than a few) ms.
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By Lampdog Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:06 am
cooocooo1 wrote:
cyrus wrote:but try making two copies of the sample......then panning one to the left, the other to the right, then mixing them together. it might work...duno.


The above will give you a wide stereo sound just make sure to offset the copy by a few(probably more than a few) ms.


I forgot about that one there, your 200% correcto.

By Anders Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:36 pm
What's a good program for offsetting a sample?

By arctec Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:48 pm
re. widening - by using a stereo parametiric eq it is possible to give the impression of width. this can work with a little experimentation you'll get it right:

choose three frequencies and qive them quite a wide Q - one bottom end, one mid and one upper mid/top. the exact frequencies depend on your taste.

For the top and bottom bands cut by a few db in the left channel, and boost by similar db in the right. Swap the boost/cut for the mid band (ie. boost left, cut right)

This really can add some space to your programme material! just be careful about the stereo imaging and try not to alter it too much.

By cooocooo1 Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:01 pm
Anders wrote:What's a good program for offsetting a sample?


Any multitrack software is capable of this.

You don't need to have software though. You can assign a sample to two pads in the MPC and pan one hard right and the other hard left, sequence the track using both pads. After you've sequenced the track(it'll sound like sh*t) go into the Timing Correct screen and shift one of the pads LATER or EARLIER 1 or 2 ticks(maybe more, depends on the sample).

Behold, stereo.

By grandpricks Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:35 am
thanks, I'm tryin to figure out that parametric eq