about tracking out and drums

Hey forum,
Real quick question. Im using the 1k. Up until now ive been ive been "bouncing" beats but im really wanting to track em out. 6 outs really doesnt do much for tracking. My question is how many tracks should I use for the drums? I know kicks and snares should be on different outs. But im wondering if snares can share with hats and toms with kicks.

Or maybe someone has the best tracking out method for 1k for me.

Thanks forum.

I would just make each track in the MPC a different element - track 1 hihat, track 2 snare, track 3 kick etc etc etc.
Then its just a matter of solo-recording each track into your DAW, i tihnk thats the most common way of doing it.

I have a question about this. When tracking out one track at a time, how do you ensure that when you play back in your daw it will sound like the playback in your mpc? So how do you keep the tracks in time in the daw? don't you need midi and line out simultaneously?

lampdog thanks i was hoping there was just a simple quick trick to track out at once. that method sounds way better than soloing tracks.

Ron-Jay wrote:I have a question about this. When tracking out one track at a time, how do you ensure that when you play back in your daw it will sound like the playback in your mpc? So how do you keep the tracks in time in the daw? don't you need midi and line out simultaneously?

yeah you'd need to midi sync your DAW with the mp so it starts/stops at the same time.

Ron-Jay wrote:I have a question about this. When tracking out one track at a time, how do you ensure that when you play back in your daw it will sound like the playback in your mpc? So how do you keep the tracks in time in the daw? don't you need midi and line out simultaneously?

MIDI is your friend

I haven't tried this myself, but I remember reading somewhere that song mode has a feature to convert tracks to a wav? You could try this and copy the wavs via usb, might be faster than realtime, and you just need to place each wav at the same start time in the daw to sync them.

I use a midi sync and multichannel soundcard to record 6 tracks at a time.

Ron-Jay wrote:I have a question about this. When tracking out one track at a time, how do you ensure that when you play back in your daw it will sound like the playback in your mpc? So how do you keep the tracks in time in the daw? don't you need midi and line out simultaneously?

Great question, like someone stated above - Midi.

Theres midi to USB devices that are dirt cheap, so get one of those and sync your DAW with the MPC. (Slave the MPC to the DAW to be more exact).

whatever works.

i habitually track drums out ST / Main (sharing ! )

Bass out 1/2
Sample layer / Synth out 3/4

No cookie cutter method, but isolating elements will help you if your mix is poo.

What Lampdog said.

Use the first 6 tracks for your main drum elements.

If you need to add embellishments, make another pass.

Layering drums within the MPC may help to reduce your track count.

innovine wrote:I haven't tried this myself, but I remember reading somewhere that song mode has a feature to convert tracks to a wav? You could try this and copy the wavs via usb, might be faster than realtime, and you just need to place each wav at the same start time in the daw to sync them.

I use a midi sync and multichannel soundcard to record 6 tracks at a time.

this is what i have been doing for all my beats lately.

you just mute all your other tracks except track 1 for example, then you go to song mode and click mixdown, then save that to a new folder called "beat 1 multitrack" or something.
the long samples will eat up your RAM, so you have to save them to the multitrack folder then delete them from your project to free up ram to do a second pass on a new instrument.

If you just make two passes keeping each sound on it's own track, you will be able to tweak the individual sounds in a much more granular fashion later on.

Ron-Jay wrote:I have a question about this. When tracking out one track at a time, how do you ensure that when you play back in your daw it will sound like the playback in your mpc? So how do you keep the tracks in time in the daw? don't you need midi and line out simultaneously?

Old School Method: Add an extra empty bar at the start of your beat. Have a single note hit at the start of the blank bar on every track in. link the recordings up by the starting note.

MIDI is a better route, but even with some setups there is enough of a lag on start that people pad their beat with an extra bar anyway.