Sampling records

drumtrack wrote:if i ahve to go through every song entirely ..
1. i forgot what i was looking for
2. ill be up all night making a single 4 bar loop
.. not a good idea ... to me

... instead I listen to the music when I dont make music. Then I sample or I dont, at least I know whats on there

man - the best way to sample, in MY opinion, is to just take stabs....add your own key's, if you can play or have the ear....even take the drums on the songs and layer them with your own, gives it a good feel. i try not to do the kanye west, just blaze chipmunks....but damn it sounds sooooo hot!! the chipmunks are the hottest background vocalists in hiphop!!

but damn it sounds sooooo hot!! the chipmunks are the hottest background vocalists in hiphop!!

RALF

drumtrack wrote:

drumtrack wrote:if i ahve to go through every song entirely ..
1. i forgot what i was looking for
2. ill be up all night making a single 4 bar loop
.. not a good idea ... to me

... instead I listen to the music when I dont make music. Then I sample or I dont, at least I know whats on there

I do the same one day just listening to records and recording into Peak to organize and chop later. After which it`s chopping down to individual notes but like drumstrack said I listen on day 1 and 2 depending on how many records I bought at Recofan and make beats later on with the samples I found.

I just tend to flick through a load of records, then when I find something I like the sound of I might sample the bit I like, then I'll listen to pretty much the whole tune looking for other bits and peieces to sample...I find I get ideas coming through from listening to the whole track.

i set aside says when im not feeling creative, or when its rainy and you just want to chill, to go back and listen to entire records. Making notes like "open horn" or even "nice bass progression to copy" or whatever. Organize it by artist, album then song. So what you effectively end up with is a list of all the nice samples on your records, or even just nice little change ups or drum patterns or whatever to inspire you.

So then when you are feeling the creative juices flowing, you know where to find that nice horn sound, or an idea on how to change it up. And you dont have to waste time looking for shit, you know where your 15-20 horn sounds are. Plus i have found tracks that start off wack but have a mad chorus or whatever to play out as well, which you never would have found.

bobbydesign wrote:i set aside says when im not feeling creative, or when its rainy and you just want to chill, to go back and listen to entire records. Making notes like "open horn" or even "nice bass progression to copy" or whatever. Organize it by artist, album then song. So what you effectively end up with is a list of all the nice samples on your records, or even just nice little change ups or drum patterns or whatever to inspire you.

So then when you are feeling the creative juices flowing, you know where to find that nice horn sound, or an idea on how to change it up. And you dont have to waste time looking for ****, you know where your 15-20 horn sounds are. Plus i have found tracks that start off wack but have a mad chorus or whatever to play out as well, which you never would have found.

I got a whole catalog of beats in my head. Everytime i see a movie, or hear a track on the oldies station, or wherever.............I catalog it in my head. I got like a million beats i could make just off of tracks i remember. If i come accross them at the shop ill get it..........sometimes i make it a point to find the track. My memeory is deep.

i set aside says when im not feeling creative, or when its rainy and you just want to chill, to go back and listen to entire records. Making notes like "open horn" or even "nice bass progression to copy"

I wish I could be that efficient....i'm just normally too focked up to enter that whole ball game....

I say do whatever you wana do.. Why would you need to come on these boards and ask if its ok to listen to a whole record or just skim thru it? personally if i find a decent track on vinyl i record the whole song onto my computer , that way its always there in case i need to go back and find a filler, or some kinda change up sample.. i also agree with the other guys in that you should take a bit of time and familiarize yourself with the artists you sample , not only does it give you a greater understanding of the artists and the genre of music, but itll also help you when you go digging again..

my 2 cents

I`m throwing this out there but I have to say that donuts joint is a great showpiece to flipping samples and beatmaking. It`s like beatmaking 101 to me. But the drums will take time to master. Hmmn DJing is definitively plus to for studying the structure of records and discovering the choice bits I feel.

First I sample everything in to the computer;
cose there are thing that I can do to sample in order to change it's structure

Rearange DOPE FHz, combining stuff...low end theory, layering...
then I transfer direct in to the MPC or resample & move to 60.
- The kits are allways original, FRESH and BOOMIN'.

And yes, I do listen to the whole record - That's how i studie music

Ahh maan, how one samples i believe is completly up to the person and or the mood that they are in. When i started i found myself rippin like half the freakin track onto cubase, then goin though it and choppin up the samples that i though were dope. Not very efficiant, i found my computer teeter-tottering beggin my ass to quit being so damn lazy. One thing i do liek about the MPC is the fact that it mades me more creative with respect to the amount of memory i use to make beats..hehe, i literally cut my memory from over 128Mb on my comp..to like 4Mb on the 1000...but hey thats another topic..

After the trail and errors, i found that best way...for ME...was to let the vinyl play...id listen to the whole track, intro till the outro, until i knew the complete composition of the song. From there its all bout creativity. SOme cats might take the whole break, others like to chop it up and make their own compositions...but i do agree that listening to the whole track does help with getting the feel of the sample ur going to use. (listening to the records in general every day should sharpen up your ear).

Now, how aboot grabbin those samples..how many of yall like to randomly run up inside a record store and grab those $1 records, without listenin to em? How many of yall are as picky with ur records as u are with hardware?

penny dimes homie, im feelin ur production homie..hella clean...

No doubt man, thanks for checkin me out, thats all old shit on ther tho, my new shit is bangin

I just put on whatever records I've picked up lately and record them into the computer while I cruise around the house/make coffee/play with the dog/do the dishes and listen. Then I come back and look at the waveform. You can see where breaks are or changes in the dynamics. It's also fun to loop up a tiny section and create something different. I get alot of budget ass records so its a good way to go through them without going crazy. Sometimes I'll just read a book and grab whatever catches my ear...