Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By DJARTWORK Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:00 am
I was wondering how you guys get your vocals to sound full? I am strating to record some vocals and I am noticing that they are sounds a bit removed from the beat.

Any suggestions?

Mic used is a AT 4040....
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By Lampdog Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:06 pm
DJARTWORK wrote:I was wondering how you guys get your vocals to sound full? I am strating to record some vocals and I am noticing that they are sounds a bit removed from the beat.

Any suggestions?

Mic used is a AT 4040....


I use Microphone Impulses in my Sound Forge (not native - it's a mic impulse plugin) cause I aint got the best sounding mic so I gotta help it out.. Mic impulses help to imitate other more common mics.

Or you could try Antares Mic Modeler. It's VERY good at imitating other expensive mics but it's not cheap.. It gives you a list to choose different mics so that you vocals will sound like you actually used that mic..

You can also try a bit of chorus, EQ, stereo expansion as well. Very small amounts of reverb maybe.
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By itchyvinyl Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:15 pm
Compress. :wink:
By roxstar Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:53 am
Not everyone sounds good doing recordings. Some don't know how to adlib (but think they do), some (rappers) think they can be like jay-z and just hit a beat without any practice, some singers are good live, but bad in a studio, and there is no mic in the world that can fix all these problems, and no engineer can tweak a knob and correct wackness. I bought a cheapo mic Octava 319 for $49 and it sounds GREAT when the right person is behind it. As long as your getting a clean signal into the recorder, there isn't much more you can really do. Sure you can compress, and add effects, but effects on bad vocals ain't gonna sound good.
I'm no recording guru.. in fact, I JUST started doing vocals at the end of December. One thing I have learned is that you want the expression to come thru the music.. I mean, I can't say I hate you, and have a smile on my face, with music, if it's a love track (for example) you want to be able to believe that she (or he.. heck, I dunno your steelo.. just kidding) really means it, and isn't reading the lyrics from a book.
In a nutshell, get the levels up there, but not maxxed out, & try to record directly into the recorder. If they still sound like crap, it ain't your fault. Give em a copy of the track, and tell em to practice it for a week.

. ..roxstar. ..
http://www.soundclick.com/creamofbeats
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By Lampdog Mon Jan 12, 2004 3:08 am
roxstar wrote:Not everyone sounds good doing recordings. Some don't know how to adlib (but think they do), some (rappers) think they can be like jay-z and just hit a beat without any practice, some singers are good live, but bad in a studio, and there is no mic in the world that can fix all these problems, and no engineer can tweak a knob and correct wackness....


Whoo, PREACH to the choir man.. perfectly true in my eyes err... ears
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By fORtUnE Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:16 am
Not everyone sounds good doing recordings.
Absolutely true some people just dont. I made a beat for my cousin we recorded his vocals doubled them up and did some adlibs sounded great with just a little bit of engineering work(some compression and eq). Then his friend rhymed on the track and it sounded terrible he just sounded so seperated from the track we worked for quite a while to get it to sound decent. It just depends on the person and if you the producer/engineer have the commitment to try and make the person atleast sound decent.
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By DJARTWORK Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:23 pm
roxstar...good stuff man thanks for all of the posts. I will try to implement some of these suggestions. I think the levels up...will make a difference never even occured to me.
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By mesh Tue Jan 13, 2004 4:59 am
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... highlight=


i gave this dude some tips on vocals, maybe some of the stuff can relate to you to. i havent heard any of your vocals though so...

list out whatever gear and plugins you use for your vocal chain as well, that will help with advice for sonic quality. but as far as what the others were saying they are right, you cant polish a turd.