Idea(vhs-recording)

FrameWork wrote:

Lord Toranaga wrote:no you couldn't












of course you could. Use your head man. This is all common sense!

LMAO I'm still learning

thats funny stuff!!!!

anyone recommend which brand of tape- obviously like with cassette some brands are better than others and some are just avoided (ferric for eg) - any tips on the best brands...

greg

Do you just run your samples through the VHS to give them the lo-fi sound, or do you run your entire beat (with drums, ect) through the VHS as well?

FrameWork wrote:Do you just run your samples through the VHS to give them the lo-fi sound, or do you run your entire beat (with drums, ect) through the VHS as well?

You can do both... haven't had a chance to mess with it yet, but I look forward to seeing how the tape saturation is, as well as the compression...

I looked at one of the sites listed in this post, and they had a diagram regarding the compression, and it looks good..

Man, am I geeked about THIS! I mixed my 1st project to Minidisc back in '01-'02 'cause my computer couldn't hang back then. I'm fixin to price me a hi-pro VCR and tapes in a hot minute so I can do this for my group's debut album.....THAT'LL show 'em!

Quick question....would you mix the flat mixes to the VHS, bounce back to PC, then master? Or mix/master on PC, then bounce? OR....flat mix to VHS, bounce back to PC, master then bounce master to VHS, THEN bounce BACK to PC for glass master CD burn?

What do ya'll think?

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Try to find one with balanced xlr inputs, I've seen a few.


I would get everything mixed right,then record stereo mix to vhs(as hot as possible). Then record vhs mix back to computer @ 24/96


I would then send it off to be mastered.

When people start getting results I'm looking forward to hearing how this sounds

I do my own mastering, but if I don't get the sound I want, I'll send it. Thanks for the tips!

Here's the one I settled on....

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Looks pretty good....It used to cost $1395 new!

MarkWolbirgh wrote:does vhs create 3rd harmonic distortion?

good question, probly, since it is analog tape it should, but I would also like this to be confirmed

My friend works in Post Production and he's put one aside for me. I'll report back once I've got it up and running.

Just need him to grab me one of those compressors now...

please keep this thread alive, as i am currently planning on picking up a vhs recorder.

i just wanted to comment about this subject a little...

most vcr's have built in limiters in them. so you arent going to get true tape saturation going into it. running through a compressor to vcr isnt such a bad way, or just play it safe and then use plugins later on. sometimes you can get a nice effect by routing drums, bass, and the effects sends all into the vcr at the same time, and then realiagn them back in the pt session. i personally dont dig the super clean pro tools sound much these days anyways, and i employ alot of things to avoid it.

the deal with vcr tape is that most of the tape strip is there for video, not audio. the actual audio section is pretty close to a cassette in size. but it still sounds better than a cassette 4 track. but it isnt really a nice dat machine.

a nice alternative i would recommend is to find a good 1/4" reel to reel machine and throw beats into that. these are still floating around...you can get decent saturation, nice low end etc. then dump to digital. these are a pain in the ass to work, but they are still used alot, even in big studios.

you can def use vcrs for some dopeness.. alot of the issue i have is the built in preamps in the mpc.. ive learned to avoid them and run the samples through anything else going into the mpc. even the dr sample w/ all yr samples done on 'standard' lo fi make a big difference in how the final beat will sound.