Filtering Drums out

the program i was talking about is called Melodyne

http://www.celemony.com/melodyne/

the product does sound promising and seems to save
you a lot of time on engineering sounds because it
does all the work for you.

so if saving time & having a program make your life a little eaiser funk it pay the $499.00

i don't see what would be wrong with buying it if it gets the job done effeciently, look at all the other products / programs we used daily

Thanks cashstill but I was more talking along the lines of what Lou-One was saying... So everybody knows I've tried a Noise Gate and I couldn't get it to work cause it ended up cuttin out almost everything... Prolly cause the drums were too loud to begin with... Filtering barely cuts anything and if it does it usually ends up ruinin the sample... I was just seein if you guys had some other tips that yous thought might maybe work.... Thanks for all the help though... Keep the suggestions comin...

MattMatiks PG wrote:Thanks cashstill but I was more talking along the lines of what Lou-One was saying... So everybody knows I've tried a Noise Gate and I couldn't get it to work cause it ended up cuttin out almost everything..

Did you try lowering the threshold a little at a time? you know until the drums come through the gate, then play with the release/decay a little to get the full length of the drum sample.

Experience is going to be you best teacher and friend when you're trying to sample anything let alone remove drums from a stereo mixdown. I seen plug ins like vocal remover and stuff like that that removes everything that is stereo and leaves the mono stuff, but from my experience it still needs alot of tweaking. Not that I am a sampling pro, but I do aight. You will never get the sample to sound like it has no drums under it, that is virtually impossible without have the individual tracks. What you can do however is make the level of those drums so low that once you lay your drums over it no one will know the old ones were there. Depending on the type of percussion used there are a few ways to do it. If you want to get rid of a pesky hihat then lower you higher ranges until it is barely audible, then experiment with your noise gate. Do the opposite for basslines and bassdrums. Some kicks are funny because they fall right in between mids and lows or "lower mid" range. As far as snares go forget about, it ain't gonna happen especially if you are wanting a vocal sample. Most snares fall right into vocal range, and the same goes for tryin to get tha dope a$$ snare off your favorite album unless it is open in the intro /outro. I know this is getting redundant, but I hope it helps someone.

-D, James

D. James... That was kinda helpful... I figured that this was gonna be the case... cause basically I can filter out kick drums, but I can never get that snare out... But i'll just keep tryin to lower it and lower it...

About that plug-in you were talking about... I have vocal removers that remove all the mono stuff... but what plug-in do you know of that removes all the stereo stuff... because if that were the case I could make a capellas easy as shit... Was that a typo in your post or do you know of something that actually does leave behind all the mono components of the mix... Please hit me back about this...oNe

MattMatiks PG wrote:D. James... That was kinda helpful... I figured that this was gonna be the case... cause basically I can filter out kick drums, but I can never get that snare out... But i'll just keep tryin to lower it and lower it...

About that plug-in you were talking about... I have vocal removers that remove all the mono stuff... but what plug-in do you know of that removes all the stereo stuff... because if that were the case I could make a capellas easy as ****... Was that a typo in your post or do you know of something that actually does leave behind all the mono components of the mix... Please hit me back about this...oNe

You're right, my bad I meant removes mono leaving stereo.

It's cool... I was getting a hard on for a lil while there...

I was having wet dreams of making A capellas of like Moody Blues Records and shit...

You set for me up for a downfall...

It's cool though

do you use an mpc to filter out drums or to filter melodies?

I filter in SoundForge and Adobe Audition... The filters in the MPC can't do shit for what I'm talkin about.

oh alright

in my 4k I just focus on a particular freq range, match up the tempos, cut down within that freq range as much as possible, expand the dynamics with a expander, then turn the sound up, typically I get what I want and just drown out the sound

This has been the most consistent, besides slicing down to pieces and recreating

Applying Fade ins/Fade outs can work wonders on reducing those snare hits even lower, and preserve a bit of the flow, typically you just have to cover that section up with something else, and no one will know it was missing

If your looking for a way to make acapellas out of things or single out shit with snare drums in it your wasting your time, considering no one has discovered this yet, your just going to have to work on your ear deception skills