Live Instruments

Does anyone know how in the hell alot of these producers(Jazzy Pha, Dr. Dre, Manny Fresh) get all of these licks and riffs from life guitarists, and bassists to sequence perfectly with tracks that are quantized. I am currently working with a live guitarists. Is it something that the musician does or is it something that I need to do.


Holla Back with any suggestions or expeirience

It is basically on the guitarists if he plays well with the track it should sync. Sometimes I take a live guitar track and chop it into 2 or 4 bar loops and sample it into my MPC or ASR. That is what i would do if you're guitarists is off a little. I know that I am taking lessons and when I play a riff it is usually off so i have to manipulate it in the computer before i sample it.

GOOD LUCK tho, live guitar riffs are the ish!

Im not sure about those cats but the best way I see to sync an MPC to a guitar track would be trough a DAW with MIDI and software. I use logic audio but there are other soft choices that can sync...The key to this technique is having a good quality interface that is reliable and keeps good midi timing with low latency. Can get expensive for a good quality interface very quick but it is really a necessity when trying to do what you are. There are other ways, this is just the way I do. Of course you can sample riffs and such into the mpc but that is different than tracking somone live. Not better or worse just different.

just turn on a recorder (hardware or software) and have the guitarist jam (must be on beat) for about 20 minute. go back and grab the section you like, load into a time stretching program to get you desired tempo and you are set. add to you sequence.

Have a jam session WITH guitarist straight to tape, zip, hard drive, whatever. You might be surprised at what it brings out of you and the guitarist...and your MPC.

word, word and word

sensewondah wrote:word, word and word

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i find it easier to sample parts from a session. My brother plays the guitar well, but when i try to get him to play to a hiphop beat, in a way that i think is good, it doesnt mesh well. I think its because what he feels, adn plays just doesnt match the same vision as mine. He plays blues, and doesnt really worry about hiphop riff etc. like i would if i could play like he did-so really sampling something that wasnt necessarily planned out can have some better groove to it.

peace

cyrus wrote:

sensewondah wrote:word, word and word

word


i find it easier to sample parts from a session. My brother plays the guitar well, but when i try to get him to play to a hiphop beat, in a way that i think is good, it doesnt mesh well. I think its because what he feels, adn plays just doesnt match the same vision as mine. He plays blues, and doesnt really worry about hiphop riff etc. like i would if i could play like he did-so really sampling something that wasnt necessarily planned out can have some better groove to it.

peace

We knew a musician like that, too. He was very, very stubborn and wanted to stick with an old funk formula that was great, but we needed him to pick up the pace. Those were some tough sessions, lol. Eventually we got around to just sampling and mangling what he did into what we needed, but he was pissed and just refused to understand what we were going for with bass and basslines...but, we eventually did run into someone who listened to those takes, asked what we wanted, told us what he could understand, and realized we were "breaking some rules" with him. He loved it. Loved doing it. Loved being baffled at our sense of music and "tone".

i read an interview with em's keyboard player who would basically be asked to jam along or emulate a riff from a sample...all live played over the beats by a pro keybaordist- therefore they are tight...

greg

so all em does is the drums?

or would he come up with a melody and have the keyboardist replay it? (obviously if he wasnt emulating the sample)

i wonder if em is doing the arrangements too.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

DaFunkDocta2004 wrote:Have a jam session WITH guitarist straight to tape, zip, hard drive, whatever. You might be surprised at what it brings out of you and the guitarist...and your MPC.

EXACTLY, pro tools comes in handy when doing shit like this. in fact i got some rhodes and bass guitar sessions to sift through, ill prolly resample em to my MPC to get everything sounding rightl.

& sense, if thats what em does, he is still a producer, thats what a "producer" technically does, we tend to confuse the terms producer and beat maker.

yea no doubt, never said he wasnt. i was just always curious about his methods. whats the difference between one of us looping up something we sampled or him looping something his keyboardist played out. ive always been curious as far as his melodies were made by him or not.

i dont think em even does the drums.....think he is just a rapper.....i mean if madonna can get production credits on her album im sure em can- doesn't mean they even touched any instrumnets or equipment....

greg

a producer to me can be both motivator, composer and beat maker like say automator....

or just a motivator and composer like baby face who i reckon has a programmer to do his patches and beats (could be wrong!)

or could the engineering type too like george martin.....

but a producer doesn't have to compose or make any beats and can still be responsble for the overall production....

greg