Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By TheMPCRipper Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:49 pm
You arent gonna get a platnum sound using that gear. You can get a good sound using a compressor then limiter then reverb than dither on the final mix channel, if there is one. If you have a good audio card, buy some outboard stuff.
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By Toom Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:52 pm
dither? whats that..is there another name for it?

By TheMPCRipper Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:55 pm
Dithering is kinda like bit reduction. A cd is 44.1 at 16 bit, you might record at 24 and 48 or 96 whatever, its a way to make the audio convert to a cd quality with out degrading the audio quality.
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By Toom Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:58 pm
what about the limiter?
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By Iceberg-Slim Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:04 pm
learn how to mix
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By Ron Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:22 pm
I am going to throw this in for free. Don't say no one ever gave you nothing.

1. Insert a stereo compressor (like a DBX 266 RNC Compressor) into a group (perferably stereo).
2. Try using a 2:1 to 8:1 compression Ratio. Set the threshold to -10dB, set the Release/Attack to medium level, adjust the output as needed.
3. Here's the secret It is an onld analog trick: while the original (non-compressed) tracks are playing back, slowly bring up the level of the group (compressed drums) non-compressed drums.

If you have waves rennasaunce colledtion try it instead of the DBX or RNC. I just did it today. I'v been mixing down some songs over the past few days that is comming out under warner brothers due in December. It never ceases to amaze me when the client comes back in after a break and eyes wide open asking "WWWWOOOOWWW!!!! :shock: What did you do?" Them joints is knocken. If you do it right you will know it is right.
Peace.
Ron

BTW, What Up peoples I missed the drama so I snuk a moment to holla :x

By misterv Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:46 pm
yo Ron,
thanx for the tips

seems like you are a real profesionnal mix engineer... nice !
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By dubmunkey Fri Apr 23, 2004 7:26 am
i think ron is and its good of him to hang around cats like us to show us the way....and as i own a dbx 2661 ill be trying something similar....

ive done it before with beats cos automator said he often uses a dry beat, a compressed beat and an eq'd beat all mixed....sounds way cool,..

greg
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By DOVESKI Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:04 pm
Yall gotta pick up that mixing engineer's handbook,they talk about all that stuff (grouping sends to compressors) but dont give you exact ratios.
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By Iceberg-Slim Fri Apr 23, 2004 6:31 pm
well needed tip there Ron, thanks

By jontakiff Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:25 pm
I got a bone to pick with our boy Ron here.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, this "Platinum Short Cuts" is basically a set of presets for things like Waves plug-ins, etc. Now, in any of the documentation for Waves or any other plug-ins, usually they'll recommend settings for certain applications, if there aren't a whole bunch of presets that are ALREADY available, included in the software. Also good to know is that any basic primer on compression and eq (found all over the internet) gives you general starting points for different applications. Meaning that in about 3 minutes, you could make your own presets and save them yourself.

If memory serves me correctly, you were charging something like $700.00 for your package. (or was it $70?- Doesn't matter) Then you came in with this line about thinking like a millionaire, what are non-professionals afraid of, blah blah blah.

Then you drop "tips" which I've seen repeated over and over again and are not these big secrets - yes, assigning your drums to a subgroup and compressing that group and then mixing to taste is useful, but anyone engineer will tell you that, it's a very common practice. But of course some of the people you are speaking to might not know since maybe they are more experienced on the MPC and less so with mixing, so you sound like the man - all the better for moving product.

I propose that selling these "Shortcutz" (either for $70 or $700) is the same as a mechanic charging you $500.00 for a repair that cost $5.00. Once you learn more about cars you'll realize this was a rip-off, but who cares - you already spent your money. And I don't buy any of this "fair market" crap. There's a difference between selling something at market value and blatantly ripping someone off.

My opinion is that you are a fairly good scam artist. Now if I'm getting the facts wrong, please correct me.
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By Ron Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:48 am
tanamo00420 wrote:personally, i thought Ron gave a good tip just now, it may be a bit simple, but if this guy doesnt know, it's damn near priceless information for him


You know tanamo "PM" I am not going to entertain dude's comment. "PM" I am going to give another tip for free. "PM" For evey vison their is an anti-vision. "PM" I said this in another post. "PM" Did you know water is good for you? "PM" Some one decieded to sell it. "PM" I cant spell even though I bought a dictionary. "PM" Things are only good if you use them. "PM" People I will continue to help where I can. I will also get in where I fit in. I expect the same from you. "PM" Watch post that I am on. You may recognize a pattern that is starting. "PM" That is why I know I am doing something right. There will always be someone following you around picking stuff that has nothing to do with anything you are talking about. "PM" I guess the term PM means nothing. No one likes to PM people if they have bones or skeletons to pick. I am picking my nose right now. I know it is discusting to most of you. But it is a relief to me.
At least I don't pee pee in the shower. Now how many of you can say that?

How is that for off the topic :roll: