Recording to VHS

http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=130150
this is from VHS, but what is so particular about the sound, is that the VHS? to me, it sounds so 'tape-y'..

cause it is tape! are you using a 4head vhs, those sound better,also use good tapes,new tape it helps out. clean the heads too before recording
i usually record to vhs when i play on the radio,pop in a 6hr tape and let it record.

you got remember your not in the digital world when using tape ,you get a nice warm sound thick,not thin like digital.

dj e.d.e wrote:cause it is tape! are you using a 4head vhs, those sound better,also use good tapes,new tape it helps out. clean the heads too before recording
i usually record to vhs when i play on the radio,pop in a 6hr tape and let it record.

you got remember your not in the digital world when using tape ,you get a nice warm sound thick,not thin like digital.

i have a question about this though...
how does tape speed (ips) and all come into play when you're using this medium?

slomough wrote:

dj e.d.e wrote:cause it is tape! are you using a 4head vhs, those sound better,also use good tapes,new tape it helps out. clean the heads too before recording
i usually record to vhs when i play on the radio,pop in a 6hr tape and let it record.

you got remember your not in the digital world when using tape ,you get a nice warm sound thick,not thin like digital.

i have a question about this though...
how does tape speed (ips) and all come into play when you're using this medium?

Yeah, because they had some porta-studio type pieces of kit you could get that ran off VHS or beta tapes back in the day. Even akai had one of those 4 tracks that used VHS and apparently they were known for being quite good quality comparing to casettes. Typically the speed would have been adjustable and the faster you ran the tape the better the quality would be but the less time you would have. I personally never used VHS for recording but I have seen it.

That medium also lead to DAT & Adat. I'm still holding on to a Tascam DA-30 my mom got me back in the day & a Adat XT20 which both use identical head setups, but the XT20 uses special (although I heard of a lot of folks using generic vhs tapes) vhs audio tapes (which I like & happen to use quantegy dm-60 tapes) that def puts your sound more in the big leagues.

dabmeister wrote:That medium also lead to DAT & Adat. I'm still holding on to a Tascam DA-30 my mom got me back in the day & a Adat XT20 which both use identical head setups, but the XT20 uses special (although I heard of a lot of folks using generic vhs tapes) vhs audio tapes (which I like & happen to use quantegy dm-60 tapes) that def puts your sound more in the big leagues.

they also had ones that used the mini VHS tapes often used in old vhs video cams.

mr_debauch wrote:

dabmeister wrote:That medium also lead to DAT & Adat. I'm still holding on to a Tascam DA-30 my mom got me back in the day & a Adat XT20 which both use identical head setups, but the XT20 uses special (although I heard of a lot of folks using generic vhs tapes) vhs audio tapes (which I like & happen to use quantegy dm-60 tapes) that def puts your sound more in the big leagues.

they also had ones that used the mini VHS tapes often used in old vhs video cams.

You talking 'bout betamax?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotape_format_war

I wonder what would happen if you recorded a track that was pitched up on short play and then played it back on long play?

HaterNob wrote:I wonder what would happen if you recorded a track that was pitched up on short play and then played it back on long play?

wont work you have to set a recording speed befor recording and you can't change it back
if you play it on some other machine sometimess it wont play

dabmeister wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

dabmeister wrote:That medium also lead to DAT & Adat. I'm still holding on to a Tascam DA-30 my mom got me back in the day & a Adat XT20 which both use identical head setups, but the XT20 uses special (although I heard of a lot of folks using generic vhs tapes) vhs audio tapes (which I like & happen to use quantegy dm-60 tapes) that def puts your sound more in the big leagues.

they also had ones that used the mini VHS tapes often used in old vhs video cams.

You talking 'bout betamax?...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videotape_format_war

hmmm, I am not sure now that you point that out. personally I dont have experience using those small vhs like cassettes... we had a handycam that used some sort of small tape like that but they were around the size of betamax however I dont think they were betamax. Isn't beta tapes a european standard?

cool topic!!!
i like vhs tapes but never tried to record on that shiit

HaterNob wrote:I wonder what would happen if you recorded a track that was pitched up on short play and then played it back on long play?

if this can be made to work, i think the youre doing this: pitched up to "short play/ fast tape/ high quality", then played at "long play/ slow tape/ low quality" setting, thus pitching it down again

this could give better quality than not pitching and speedfiddling
but i think there could be some filters involved, or noise reduction, which makes it more complicated..

dj e.d.e wrote:cause it is tape! are you using a 4head vhs, those sound better,also use good tapes,new tape it helps out. clean the heads too before recording
i usually record to vhs when i play on the radio,pop in a 6hr tape and let it record.

you got remember your not in the digital world when using tape ,you get a nice warm sound thick,not thin like digital.

could you compare it to somewhere between audio cassettes and 'regular' tape? is it possible to record 'hot'? do you know how the circuitry is laid out, no filters or NR or something?

vhs also looks quite easy to use...

i dont know what 'tape-y' is.. its just a feeling i get. probably because of learning the association through watching youtube, and noticing that particular sound always was from videos

slomough wrote:

dj e.d.e wrote:cause it is tape! are you using a 4head vhs, those sound better,also use good tapes,new tape it helps out. clean the heads too before recording
i usually record to vhs when i play on the radio,pop in a 6hr tape and let it record.

you got remember your not in the digital world when using tape ,you get a nice warm sound thick,not thin like digital.

i have a question about this though...
how does tape speed (ips) and all come into play when you're using this medium?

i dont know if you can open up your vhs to get more control than this: standard play and long play, maybe doing some pitching around, and using different record and play speeds can give you more options..

dabmeister wrote:That medium also lead to DAT & Adat. I'm still holding on to a Tascam DA-30 my mom got me back in the day & a Adat XT20 which both use identical head setups, but the XT20 uses special (although I heard of a lot of folks using generic vhs tapes) vhs audio tapes (which I like & happen to use quantegy dm-60 tapes) that def puts your sound more in the big leagues.

isnt DAT digital?

more in the big leagues= moar 'hi fi'?