Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Tru4LifeRecords Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:59 am
Does anyone remember the SP-808 sampler? Do you remeber if it had a sequencer on it? If it did, why did it fall off? Noone is talkig about it anymore... :shock:
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By binger0 Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:06 am
casue its just a drum machine no sampler. it is talked about and used alot still. alot of hip hop and dance music still use 808s.
http://www.vintagesynth.org/roland/808.shtml
it is all presets. and its just a drum kit. i would just get an mpc and get one of the thousand free 808 kits from online. including www.akaipro.com site.

u should get a mpc, which has a sampler, and a good sequncer, and then get a keyboard or synth. The alesis micron is pretty cool and is not that expensive.
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ALEMICRON?trk=smx
get a cheap mixer like a berhinger and some monitors and u got a good little setup. i see u with all these posts for diff gear but i think u should just start with a 1000 and go from there according to what ur needs become.

By Tru4LifeRecords Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:48 am
I think we are talking about a different piece of gear. The Roland SP-808 is not a drum machine, it's a sampler with audio recording. But I don't know if it has a sequencer because it don't say.. I don't want to assume at this point. You can get this thing on the street for less than $500, and if it don't have a sequencer then you can get something to midi it up..If this is so then I would hold off on the MPC1K because it would be pointless.. I post alot because I am going over seas for 6 months and I want to make sure I am ahead of the game and this site offers alot of insight. I think it's one of the Producer Headquarters. Thankx for always giving me a good Word though. :wink:
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By binger0 Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:19 am
:oops: my bad, ur right. i saw 808 and i just skimmed it. nah the roland is aight, but the mpc is hands down the best sequncer i have used. its real comfortable and easy to use. if u have the dough though go with the 2000xl. for the money i think its the best mpc around. the sampler isnt that bad and the sequncer is perfect.

By Tru4LifeRecords Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:43 am
The Roland Sp-808 does not have a good sequencer feature at all. I would have to hook a Roland MC-307 up to it then control the pads via midi. I only use this combination because it allows me to get a little more audio out of it(100MB Zip Disk), and the sounds from the MC-307, make a perfect cheap "MPC"...I have money, but I like to get the most out of it. But I still agree with you..MPC obviously has a strong engine. Once you begin to expand and load sounds to it, there is no need to put the MPC down. Thankx :D
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By wkiw Tue Oct 26, 2004 8:39 pm
the sp 808 is great for live situations.
it has a lot of samplin time
nice effect wich you can sample through
a 4 track recorder built in
and a very easy user interface.
its not really built to be midi controlled and it doesnt shine in that function.
its a great loop sampler and a great way to add a live feel to the show.
i think the delays are great on that machine.
its more comparable to a su700 then an mpc.
peace

By nanoloop Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:09 am
your better off with an su700.. the sp808 streams its samples from zip disk, not from ram. how wonderful, not.... i dont like the sounds of that at all.
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By DOVESKI Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:45 am
its a piece of garbage, first thing i bought when i got back into making music, thought it was a shortcut to really getting an mpc.

By RonDu Wed Oct 27, 2004 4:22 am
SP808 is only good for phrase sampling. I bought that sh*t thinking it was better than the MPC. Onboard efx and all. To my disappointment that sh*t was garbage. It had no internal memory and read everything directly from the Zip disk. If you tried to bang out a beat on the pads while recording the sh*t would freeze because it couldn't keep up. I had to step record every beat but if there was a lot of 16th notes it wouldn't read them all the time. It was good for resampling though. I ended up having to midi and record a drum sequence from my Dr Rhythm as a phrase and f*ck wit it from there. There are no sequences. However you could record a "sequence" and resample it to a pad so you basically could have all your sequences stored on pads. On top of that it only has 4 tracks so you had to constantly keep bouncing tracks. If you recorded a full song with vocals it would take up most of your Zip space. I bought it for I think $1200 and couldn't sell that sh*t for more than $400. It didn't even have the eight outs either. Good for live gigs though

By threesixfive Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:44 am
first thing i bought too when i got into this shit... made some dope beats with it but it wasnt easy... more of a phrase sampler for dance music. It was very hard to trigger one shots. NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT...( but the lights and colors were cool!@1)

By gordongecko23 Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:59 pm
yeah i still have one.
it kinda sucks.
you can't make drum patterns like on the mpc.
the pads are not velocity sensitive, which is horrible.
the effects are ok. i sometimes run my mpc through it,
but they are nothing to write home about.
and it saves in some wierd roland format,
so then u have to convert those files to wav file on your computer.
i did not know what i was doing when i bought that.
i wasted a good 2 years on it when i could have gotten an mpc.


so it is a great machine, i have one for sale for like a grand.
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By DOVESKI Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:20 pm
it can resample with effects tho i think...still to much space wise to have in a studio for that alone.

By fobedafied Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:33 pm
just bought one for $360... traded it like 3 days later for a mackie cr1604vlz... i think it was a good deal...

By MAD T Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:43 pm
damn...360 for one of those. ouch.

By gordongecko23 Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:45 pm
i can hook u up for ike 1500.00 a steal of a price.