what are most rookie producers lacking in their beats?????

In my opinion tha biggest thing is #1 not using enough percussion sounds. Its not all about kick snare programming and Hit hats. ITs about kick snare programming and SMART highhat placement. Biggest problem is most producers only focus on kick snare and not enough about the other sounds. The way u realy get your beat to tell a story is with the quiet minute percussion sounds. Bring them in every few bars and drop them out. I use at least 10 tracks of straight percussion sounds, maybe more. I keep alot of them quiet so they dont stand out but you know that they are their and you can realy feel them in the track. Lots of shakers and closed hats and just simply lots of ethnic drums rockin realy crazy in the background.


Also ever since ****** dropped that post about rasing the resolution in double time Ive been doin that in all my tracks. It deffinately makes a huge difference in my tracks. I used to only double slow tracks like 70bpm to 140 but now i does it all the time ie. 90bpm to 180.

everyone post up your opinions and ideas its time to start learning from eachother again. Too much off topic convo lets get it poppin again

Oh yeah, double res is def a good friend of mine. We hang out all the time.

Most beginners seem to know nothing about dynamics...they fill up thier tunes with stuff in the hopes it will make a bad beat better and then over - compress until it's all one level...more is not allways better....

iono bout all dat man, cause some minimalist shit is hot

some minimal stuff is hot but try out what I said. Im talking about keeping the sounds very subtle son. U dont wanna hear too much u just wanna know that its going on. Well Im just a percussion head so maybe its just me who knows.

Yo lamp u ever tried triple resoultion? Ive never tried trippling b4, If u did try it was it huge difference from double? What did u set your time sig to? 12/4? Imma deffinately test it out when i get back home from work.

Never tried it. Double is really all I ever needed when I wanna get more complex than my normal beats.


I have done odd 3/4 beats, like Outkasts "whole world".
I do that almost on the regular.

call me old fashion but i like the rawness of a sampled drum loop, it's all in the breaks.

could you use dubres on loops or is it just one shot programming?

dj e.d.e wrote:call me old fashion but i like the rawness of a sampled drum loop, it's all in the breaks.

could you use dubres on loops or is it just one shot programming?

Yeah, I have recently started using "drum loops" in my production..It really gives a track an extra rawness to it

Young producer's

Lack Basslines...

You cant have a track without bass...

Most cats sample then realize that the synth bass dont match pitch and give up..

Get some hard hitting bass in your tracks and peeps with cars wil tahnk you

VanFanel wrote:

dj e.d.e wrote:call me old fashion but i like the rawness of a sampled drum loop, it's all in the breaks.

could you use dubres on loops or is it just one shot programming?

Yeah, I have recently started using "drum loops" in my production..It really gives a track an extra rawness to it

Me also. But I really need to practice making my drums fit the mood of my track. You know like if I'm dealing with a rock sample I need to work on making my drum track match the rock feel. Anybody understand what I'm talkin' about?

Another thing is trying to make quality beats. Quality always whens over quantity. It doesn't matter if you make 5 beats a day if 4 of them suck.

do u guys do that double and triple shit to get around the quant.? i jus rock it free

I've made joints with no basslines before....cats just don't understand is that when you have no bassline you have to compensate for that......most beginners don't understand EQ and levels....if you have overpowering drums you might need a bassline.....

Freedom wrote:Young producer's

Lack Basslines...

You cant have a track without bass...

Most cats sample then realize that the synth bass dont match pitch and give up..

Get some hard hitting bass in your tracks and peeps with cars wil tahnk you

that's true but you could always throw a 808 instead of a bassline depending on the track.
but i've noticed alot of new cats who do use bassline are offkey,i mean not something the average listner will pick up but bass sounds so much better when in key with the sample