tracking problem

When tracking beats. I slave my computer to my mpc so when I hit play on the mpc the computer starts tracking. Now the problem is I'm having trouble looping the tracks correctly becuase my computer doesnt stop right where it should be. When I go loop up the bars that i recorded everthing falls out of sync down the line. Does that make sence? I guess that means that some how Im not looping the tracks right in my daw. **** it maybe I just need to get a mac and protools

you could reverse the process and see if the problem resolves.....in other words. have the MPC as save.....

What software are you using?

Kool Edit Pro. THat might be the problem. Its like when the sequence stops recording there is lil bit extra on the end. So I go and procede to try to make it loop by choping the extra off and to me it sounds perfect, but up around 1 minute the drums start to stray off beat. Sh!ts annoying as hell

Why not track your sequences and rearrange in your DAW? Its what i does, although drum/instrument variations can be a little more time consuming, its a lot easier.

Record your 4 bar loop with the looping off in the mp, make sure your daw has the correct tempo and trim off the extra noise. Copy and Paste ....

Cool Edit's aight but try Reaper a lot easier to use IMO. Easier on the eyes, less menus and more and straight to the point. Id use CE just for editing loops and samples.

co sign reaper, it can do a lot more then cep...

if I hadnt already spent years learnin pt I would be usin reaper....

No its coz the computer drifts out of time over midi.

Sorry the sync. Free wheel in the mpc ( ie no midi sync)

Then zoom right in and cut the wave form. Use a hi hat or something on the begining of tracks that dont start with a sound on the 1st beat.

when you line them all up they will loop.

Don't know what on earth mike was talking about. I dont think he understood the question.

GritKitz wrote:No its coz the computer drifts out of time over midi.

Sorry the sync. Free wheel in the mpc ( ie no midi sync)

Then zoom right in and cut the wave form. Use a hi hat or something on the begining of tracks that dont start with a sound on the 1st beat.

when you line them all up they will loop.

Don't know what on earth mike was talking about. I dont think he understood the question.

Mike Dugan wrote:Why not track your sequences and rearrange in your DAW? Its what i does, although drum/instrument variations can be a little more time consuming, its a lot easier.

Record your 4 bar loop with the looping off in the mp, make sure your daw has the correct tempo and trim off the extra noise. Copy and Paste ....

Cool Edit's aight but try Reaper a lot easier to use IMO. Easier on the eyes, less menus and more and straight to the point. Id use CE just for editing loops and samples.

Your saying track my sequences... How can you mix down individual sounds if your tracking everything together like that?? Of course that would be easier but I want to have the sounds separated. Good looks on that Reaper tip

Jacpot wrote:

Mike Dugan wrote:Why not track your sequences and rearrange in your DAW? Its what i does, although drum/instrument variations can be a little more time consuming, its a lot easier.

Record your 4 bar loop with the looping off in the mp, make sure your daw has the correct tempo and trim off the extra noise. Copy and Paste ....

Cool Edit's aight but try Reaper a lot easier to use IMO. Easier on the eyes, less menus and more and straight to the point. Id use CE just for editing loops and samples.

Your saying track my sequences... How can you mix down individual sounds if your tracking everything together like that?? Of course that would be easier but I want to have the sounds separated. Good looks on that Reaper tip

Thats why i said do one track at a time placing a percussive sound at the beginning.

Unltll you have tracked them all.

GritKitz wrote:
Thats why i said do one track at a time placing a percussive sound at the beginning.

Unltll you have tracked them all.

thats the mickey mouse, i don't really know what i'm doing way of doing it though.

the way to do it is to sync your MPC. preferably with MTC.

i would slave the MPC to the computer instead of the other way around.

rickrock305 wrote:i would slave the MPC to the computer instead of the other way around.

thats how i used to do it.

m.sm. wrote:

rickrock305 wrote:i would slave the MPC to the computer instead of the other way around.

thats how i used to do it.

I think that might be what I did. Oh well Either way Ill figure it out. And I did use MTC.

aight check this out. don't know if anyone mentioned this already cause I aint read all the replies..

When I used to track into cubase, what I used to do was slave my mpc to my computer. So that when I pressed record on the computer, my mpc would start.

I had cubase set up to only record 8 bars of audio. So it would actually stop recording after 8 bars. So everything was always the same length.

But in audition or cep, I don't know if that's possible. I've tried using audition to track and its a pain. what you could do is, say you only wanna record 8 bars of each track record the 8 but let it record a little after the 8th bar. let it start over at bar 1 before you stop recording. that way you can actually hear where to trim the end off. make sense? that dosnt guarantee everything will be trimmed exactly the same, but it damn sure helps.

and if all else fails, try cubase se. it was much easier and user friendly imo for tracking. but for editing audio. I will always use audition. everytime I tried tracking in audition, my tracks get out of sync somewhere.

GritKitz wrote:

Jacpot wrote:

Mike Dugan wrote:Why not track your sequences and rearrange in your DAW? Its what i does, although drum/instrument variations can be a little more time consuming, its a lot easier.

Record your 4 bar loop with the looping off in the mp, make sure your daw has the correct tempo and trim off the extra noise. Copy and Paste ....

Cool Edit's aight but try Reaper a lot easier to use IMO. Easier on the eyes, less menus and more and straight to the point. Id use CE just for editing loops and samples.

Your saying track my sequences... How can you mix down individual sounds if your tracking everything together like that?? Of course that would be easier but I want to have the sounds separated. Good looks on that Reaper tip

Thats why i said do one track at a time placing a percussive sound at the beginning.

Unltll you have tracked them all.

thats how i do i usually start the track with the click in the begingin and then line em up. i know i should be using the MTC but i havent gave it a try yet..

MTC drifts very quickly.


Also no way do you want to be following the P.C's midi clock.

so dose the mpc's after about 7 or 8 bars. Even if you free wheel.

Try cutting it about 1 min in and looping it will be way out.

Not a problem tho.

Its best to sequence your entire arrangement on the mpc first then bounce to disk.


computers have very poor timing over midi. No where even nearly comparable to an atari st or hardware unit