By en2
Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:33 pm
wheres tutor to close shop on this thread cause now its just gettn stupid, me included.


delnegro wrote:It's a reach cause I never said sh1t about Em whining or whites not being able to feel hiphop. And I didnt assume anything but at this stage in the game for a hiphop fan to not be able to admit hiphop or more specifically in this case rap is a black artform then you're in Egypt...in Da Nile(denial). You said I shot myself in the foot saying it's a black artform. I'm not assuming your white but I AM assuming you're not black. I guess once I pointed out that Em said he does black music you saw more clearly. But I shot myself in the foot when I said it..LOL. Ya'll some funny muhfukas...seriously!

cyrus wrote:You have some valid points, but in the end color doesnt have **** to do with it....its music

fobedafied wrote:sorry man,
but, "timbs, shelltoes, trends, slang, and fashion" arent even in my definition of "hiphop"... im sure we all have different views of what hiphop is and isnt though...
hmmmm... are timberland and adidas black culture? i dont know man, from your posts, it seems like we talkin bout a different hiphop here...
i guess my version of hiphop aint from the right "essence"......
i better go find some cross-streets to rep....

en2 wrote:the realest of the real of the realest of the real.............

delnegro wrote:fobedafied wrote:sorry man,
but, "timbs, shelltoes, trends, slang, and fashion" arent even in my definition of "hiphop"... im sure we all have different views of what hiphop is and isnt though...
hmmmm... are timberland and adidas black culture? i dont know man, from your posts, it seems like we talkin bout a different hiphop here...
i guess my version of hiphop aint from the right "essence"......
i better go find some cross-streets to rep....
Tell that to Run and them and the thousands of other people who were at the Garden w/ me raising there shelltoes when they did "my adidas". If you weren't there and didnt live the culture at the time than YOU wouldnt understand. Then who made timberlands, airforce ones(we've been rocking them here in nyc since like '90), tommy, and all the other fashoin trends that have came and gone in hiphop hot?! You gon' tell me fashion, slang, way we speak(I can name a multitude of words that derived from hiphop) and all that aint a part of hiphop?! Yeah Eminem just woke up and decided to don a du-rag oneday!! LOL Then you right we do rep different hiphop.
Smoove03 wrote:there's definately exceptions. your overly proud dogg.
i just think you should open your eyes a bit wider. we're not the only folks on the planet. i love black people. but man i've been taught some amazing **** in the music game by folks other than my color. i got much respect. not saying you dont, but you sound like a complete fool. idiot. dummy. call it what you want.
lol.
"You can be black and proud and NOT be anit-white."
so what you screamin on em about? you mad cause the man white and he's in the same game you are, but your black and think he shouldnt be doing it, so it gets you heated.
thats what i got from your posts
cyrus wrote:delnegro wrote:fobedafied wrote:sorry man,
but, "timbs, shelltoes, trends, slang, and fashion" arent even in my definition of "hiphop"... im sure we all have different views of what hiphop is and isnt though...
hmmmm... are timberland and adidas black culture? i dont know man, from your posts, it seems like we talkin bout a different hiphop here...
i guess my version of hiphop aint from the right "essence"......
i better go find some cross-streets to rep....
Tell that to Run and them and the thousands of other people who were at the Garden w/ me raising there shelltoes when they did "my adidas". If you weren't there and didnt live the culture at the time than YOU wouldnt understand. Then who made timberlands, airforce ones(we've been rocking them here in nyc since like '90), tommy, and all the other fashoin trends that have came and gone in hiphop hot?! You gon' tell me fashion, slang, way we speak(I can name a multitude of words that derived from hiphop) and all that aint a part of hiphop?! Yeah Eminem just woke up and decided to don a du-rag oneday!! LOL Then you right we do rep different hiphop.
yeah i see ya, but times are changing man. Jay z and Linkin park? Thats an example of how the genre is progressing; im not saying thats what hiphop is, or to forget about roots, or thats what hiphop will be.
but they are a perfect example. The best rapper, and a part white rock group, doing what they love, making music open mindedly-hiphop

delnegro wrote:His name is Lee. And just because you know about Rock Steady and yes they were mostly Latino BUT they weren't the only breaking crews in the 5 boroughs!!! There mounds of other crews that dont get mentioned, weren't as up high in beat street and all that. Bootlegging aint come around til like the early nineties hiphop was thriving still. And believe me the people who were down with hiphop b4 it went mainstream would still be down now. I know who was making the majority of sales at this time cause I know the majority of people who listened to the music. Just like it doesnt take a genius to figure out blacks are about 15% of the total population of the U.S. so of course when we were the majority of buyers it would less then now. I said once and I'll say it again..Most of the trends, slang, innovations, fashion, in hiphop were started by blacks. Listen to Mos Def new album when he talks about rock musicians and you'll understand why I'm so adamant about making my point and wont be privy to revisionist history.