Music THeory Tip

Good stuff here as usual. I'm a keyboard player in addition to making beats. I just recently decided to study music theory from posts that I read here the other day. I have a good ear but, I'm sure that learning theory will be another tool that I can have under my belt. I figure the more tools that I have at my disposal, the more opportunity I will have to be creative.

sensewondah, just say you made a beat and a singer wants to use some compontents of your beat. say the singer wants you to remix your beat to a more r & b flavor and the singer sings in the key of c sharp. what are you gong to do? will you be able to handle this project? this situation happens everyday and what would you do? lets someone else produce the remix because you do not have the skills to handle it. what happens it the singer is a season performer, would you be able to talk the language of music with he or she. the bottom line is most artist want there music to be technically correct. just listen to dr. dre and jermanie dupree music. compare there first release with their current release. yes, they had the raw talent but you could hear how much theory, studio technic (sound design/sound theory) they have learned.

i do not know how long you have been making music/beats but it seems that you have a lot to learn not just theory but the WHOLE MUSIC MAKING PROCESS. this is not a flame but the truth.

again, if you just want to sample other people music and put a beat on top of it you need NO THEORY. but if you want melody and harmony added to your beats theory is a more direct route. period.

i hate to say this but individual like you f's up the game because you make statement that you know nothing about. all of my post are design to push the individual who have the raw talent and want to go to the next level with their music/beats/careers. we may not have a record deal but we want our music to be technically sound. you have a nice.

mwalker wrote: if you just want drums and samples this is a TOTAL waste of time.

I think sensewondah was refering to your last sentance in that paragraph. And he is right, if you combine both music theory and and sampling you can get a NASTY combination. Just because you make beats with samples, does not mean you are not incorporating music theory. Part of matching two samples is knowing that they have to be in the same key to mesh well-and that is essentially what music theory is(knowing what notes go together, and in what arrangement works best for what you want to accomplish).

Even though dr.dre and j.d. use alot of music theory in their music, they still sample. I think thier ear for good production comes from thier sampling roots.

If it makes you bounce, its good, whether it was well planned, an accident, or played by a professional keyboardist. I think in the end, knowing sampling and music thoery will just make you better whether you actually play keys or not.

wow. i didnt expect to get blasted like that. i wasnt being arguementive with you at all. i think that you totally misinterpreted what i typed and instead of comin off and making all these comments, youre probably better off re reading what i said.

my point is that the combination of music theory and sampling is a deadly combination. i was stating that technical aspects ARE important. i was simply talking about a different approach at sampling INSTEAD of looping someone elses music and putting a beat on top of it. i never disrespected you in any way shape or form. im talking about everything that youre talking about, im on your side but i disagreed with the fact that you said that its a waste of time to learn theory if youre sampling which is totally absurd.

youre looking at sampling one dimensionally. that may hold true for LOOPING, but say you found a dope guitar loop. dropped a beat on it. and then you were going through some records, found these dope keys, but they just didnt mesh, you would need to know the note that the piano is, so you could pitch it properly to match the proper key of the guitar track and then the notes in the scale to play out the piano yourself. the only difference is instead of the sound being in a keyboard it was on a record.

for you to go and say i have a lot to learn about music and that "cats like me F up the game" is completely rediculous because you TOTALLY MISREAD my post and apparently took offense to it.
there is no beef. go back and re read what i wrote and youll see where im comin from homie.

mwalker wrote:you cant learn this sh*t in a night but take oneday at a time. just read 30 minutes a day and you still have time to make beats. if you just take 10 lessons (ten weeks) and get to the point of learning leading tones (leading tones ties the scales and chords together. you may not know how to play it yet, but you will learn the key to making songs and not just beats) you will be set. this is only true if you want to add melody and harmony to your beats. if you just want drums and samples this is a TOTAL waste of time.

you could learn it in one night. Just depends on the person.

to invert a triad............

Cord I C Major....

G
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C

First inversoin....

C
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Second inversion...


E
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The point of this thread was to see tips, not **** wine about music theory vs sampling.

Very good point. But that happens alot of the time. I this Is a great thread. I lt would be Cool to see more threads like this

haha that was nine years ago son

damn you bringing them back from the dead huh