dnb, breaks, house, downtempo tips!! get it started!

incurable you are kidding right?

greg

Techno is all about the bass and kick. you get that work'n proper together and you've got the makings of a roller. drums are important too. lots of compression on the snares and other mid to highs, but not too much. I like my hats to snap, almost sizzle. But I think the true measure of quality techno is the use of synths. big crazy scary industrial urban groovy synth sounds. AND I LOVE when the synth groove tricks your ears into thinking the beat is in one place when the kick and bass is doing something completely different...
Techno is all about innovation, emotion and presence. Technology man! How does the world impact you and your expression through music? Hokie I know, but too much music is written with sales in mind, and "I know people like it like this so i'll do it"...Just speed up the bpms a little, and do whatchalike.

BTW, techno can be many things:
check out productions by:
angel alanis
robert hood
jeff mills
derrick carter
paul birken (this guy contributes to this forum)
just to name a few.

listen to the beats, and hear the techniques...

hey does angel alanis contribute here , that dude got some of the dopest productions late 90's -2000.

when i heard this guys music thats why i wanted to produce to make music to mix with his.

i'm not even close yet, mine still sounds like early years hosue techno, which is ok with me but i still want to mix my music alanis stuff.

what r good techniques for this type of music, i get lost listening to his music trying to figure it out.

i love ACIDhouse and techno!!!!

dubmunkey wrote:incurable you are kidding right?

greg

not really kidding just trying to get the exchange of ideas flowing. when i asked about the percussion its not so much that i need rules to follow i just im just curious how yall do. when making a beat i read some supposed pro saying that he fills up all the spaces in the track with percussion. when i try that it sounds kinda.. crap. as for sequencing i am not asking hoew to sequence the notes themselves but rather where to do so. are there dance producers who use the mpc for sequencing all events.
dub, it kinda goes like this: i make a simple kick and snare loop and elaborate w/ samples synth sounds, more percussion of course. but i just end up w/ a 16 bar loop that i can flip out w/ track mutes. w/ hip hop this works out but with house it needs i think to change and actively progress more for the lack of lyrics or whatever. it just doesn't seem that track mute is gonna cut it.

maybe i need to scrap hiphop for a bit and try to get my head around teqs. that will make my mpc more useful for house. perhaps i need to take a fresh look at the mpc and come w/ a new production style alltogether.

sorry if my questions still sound rookie dubmonkey. i can get my basic beats rolling but i need to develop my builds/drops more. i appreciate all responses.

incurablebeatlust i think your right lay off the hiphop a bit and concentrate on your production of house ,this worked for me, i could not make my house beats when i first gott my mpc, so i stoped i started with hiphop then when i got confortable with it i went back to my house building and i could not be beleive the sounds i was making , (i have not put any of my tracks out ),but this is cause i am my own worst critic, plus i have not yet found my sound i am looking for,

but i think your right, you need to stay with one style first, when you hear what you want to hear from it then try to apply that to another style,

but begin to switch it up a bit , then you will hear your sound starting to break out; it helps!

this box is a F@ckin great tool ,the things you can do with it, learn your mpc and a certain style; stick to that bit and master it ,then flip what you kno.

peace bro dont give up.

ah i see. i was gonna shout MPC in a very loud voice! i use track mutes for little changes and then fills and stuff for the big changes....my stuff isn't generally vocal led its more club based...so i dont tend to follow the verse-hook-verse format....so its basically the same as id do a bhip hop tune: many seqs linked by song mode...

just listen to some similar tunes...you'll find most have a teaser intro, intro of main hook, emebelillshment, a breakdown and then back up for the final slam....but thats not all tunes...

percussion? its all about the sound and less can be more....ive been guilty of adding too much in the past its just a case of experimenting with say 4-5 sounds and building from there......

also house is more reliant on groove...honestly listen to some diamond hosue tracks and you'll realise there are not many elements and sometimes its just the beat for ages but cos it grooves people want it...


greg

did anyone get that book yet for programming jungle breaks?

nah amazon keep delaying mine..wish they wouldn't advertsie stuff they dont actually have in stock yet...

greg

DubMonkey always got somethin nice to add... For real dub... I produce hip-hop and I'm tryin to break into Instrumental hip-hop (like RJD2)... A lot of what you said was insightful for any type of electronic music, not just house and other uptempo sh*t... You had a lot of good tips and I just wanted to say thanks... Props to you... keep up the good work

any time mattmatiks....i owe an awful lot to the kindness of internet strangers...so many peeps took the time to hold my hand through the early stages of getting my head around this stuff....and ive learned so much stuff i doubt i could have learned elsewhere....a couple of years on and the cycle has turned and although im nowhere near pro im in a position to help others out confidently....(ie not give bad advice)

these people were always of the opinion that music is for sharing and there should be no secrets...and whilst we all have our own personal private tips i wanna follow the ethic and share what ive learned....

ah....aint that cheesy?

greg

I feel a tear rolling down my cheek..

lol cheech always has an image for the words....

greg

Mere words are usually not enough to express my deepest, most inner feelings..

where is su ami? or am i stoopid?

greg