Studio One?

lol at this thread. No words needed.

The only Studio Ones I fox with looks something like these:

I use studio one with my StudioLive. It came with the mixer. And I know 3 things are fact.
1)It does actually give a cleaner sound due to the programs code, its a less latent buffer and also sweeps out peak frequenceies. Bad for guitar, great for vocals.
2) It does use less CPU power, again due to its programming.
3) If you want to sequence and/or properly mix in the program, look elsewhere. Chaining plugins is tiresome and complicated, and the sequencer absolutely sucks monkey nuts. Midi mapping is tedious. So for production its a no go....yet.


I mix everything on the board, my studiolive, then track out in studio one.. But I also have logic, and logic seems way more capable. hell, even the sequencer in Express is damn apt for a professional. Only thing you get wiuth Logic Studio is a shitload of effects and instruments.

I also like to use Capture if I have everything mixed on the MPC. Capture is another presonus program used to catch live recordings. But its great for tracking out, and it does just that, captures what ur playing.



So, is studio one a toy? Not at all, alot of potential here. Great one window interface. Simple menu navigation once you learn it. Plus there is supposed to be a better sequencer in the next update. Ive always been biased to Presonus tho, their hardware is dope. Greatest sounding AD/DA and preamps in the industry under a grand IMO.

And no offense pound, but **** PRO TOOLS!. But thats mainly cause I have no **** idea how to use it.

Tapuno wrote:And no offense pound

None taken fam. I have made a substantial amount of moolah with it so I aint mad

I agree for making beats with Studio One is a no show, I have used Pro-Tools and its a great program but more for mac users and the PC versions aren't as great as they is cracked up to be.
But Studio One is great for mixing and editing vocals, great interface. Easy workflow, and good presets for vocals and all even though I disagree with the guitar part cus my dad, he be recording guitar tracks that sound awesome is Studio One too. Even ole boy Tapuno said there's a lot of potential in it and I think once they finally get that update going, it's wrap and its gonna take over in the PC Studio Game. So far the only ones who are hating is the guys using Pro-Tools who haven't even gave Studio One a chance yet.
But overall, its not about what DAW you use in the end, it's all about the HOW YOU USE IT WITH THE END RESULTS. Cus I know some cats who have big studios and Protools and still sound bunk compared to my little studio.

mr_debauch wrote:

poundaproblem wrote:One more thing, if I had to use other DAWs, Ableton and Logic would pretty much be the only real comparables. Everything else is just toy sh*t.

normally I would agree with you, but I would hardly consider nuendo toy shit pound... though I am guessing you weren't thinking of that program at the time... reason is kind of like a toy, but that is my favourite part of it... it's fun, especially wiring the racks in improper ways, however I dont consider reason to be the same style of daw as pro tools and nuendo... oh, cubase (being similar to nuendo) is also quite good and also quite common.

i think reason is more like a daw now when record is present.

Studio One is ok..........but Sonar 8.5 is probably the best out right now.IMO.

I use pro-tools also but Sonar is better.

Peace.

inflict3 wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

poundaproblem wrote:One more thing, if I had to use other DAWs, Ableton and Logic would pretty much be the only real comparables. Everything else is just toy sh*t.

normally I would agree with you, but I would hardly consider nuendo toy shit pound... though I am guessing you weren't thinking of that program at the time... reason is kind of like a toy, but that is my favourite part of it... it's fun, especially wiring the racks in improper ways, however I dont consider reason to be the same style of daw as pro tools and nuendo... oh, cubase (being similar to nuendo) is also quite good and also quite common.

i think reason is more like a daw now when record is present.

reason has always been a daw... it now can record audio with record unlike previously.

Digital (reason is certainly digital) Audio (it certainly pertains to audio) Workstation (well yes, that it is)


Just cause protools, cubase, sonar, etc... records audio tracks doesn't mean that is the only thing that falls under the category of DAW. DAW is a very wide range term. Back before cubase or computer programs in general could record audio tracks and only could sequence external gear via midi interfaces... they were considered DAWs... how would those be different then reason since it is too a midi sequencer that comes with it's own internal pluggins?

no shit dude?? I think we no the meaning of the term daw.. ive used reason since 1.0, it was a daw back then too. its just alot better now that it records audio. even though reason has no vst support its still a power house. we've got refills instead of vsts..

inflict3 wrote:no shit dude?? I think we no the meaning of the term daw.. ive used reason since 1.0, it was a daw back then too. its just alot better now that it records audio. even though reason has no vst support its still a power house. we've got refills instead of vsts..

ah well sorry, there was an entire thread on here where many people said reason is not considered a DAW.... and how is would fall more into the virtual instrument category.... which IMO is not accurate....

I know what refills do, I have several gigs of refills I downloaded over the years for various reason components (some for malstrom only, some for the samplers only etc... some mixed. I forget which ones I all have)

mr_debauch wrote:

inflict3 wrote:no shit dude?? I think we no the meaning of the term daw.. ive used reason since 1.0, it was a daw back then too. its just alot better now that it records audio. even though reason has no vst support its still a power house. we've got refills instead of vsts..

ah well sorry, there was an entire thread on here where many people said reason is not considered a DAW.... and how is would fall more into the virtual instrument category.... which IMO is not accurate....

I know what refills do, I have several gigs of refills I downloaded over the years for various reason components (some for malstrom only, some for the samplers only etc... some mixed. I forget which ones I all have)

lol.. yea, ive got hella refills too. im just now learning all this vst stuff. i understand what you mean man. cats are always hating on reason. but point is, reason is dope, and it is a daw. reason has been around for a long time now, and it will continue to be. reason and record is the only daw i actually use.lol

inflict3 wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

inflict3 wrote:no shit dude?? I think we no the meaning of the term daw.. ive used reason since 1.0, it was a daw back then too. its just alot better now that it records audio. even though reason has no vst support its still a power house. we've got refills instead of vsts..

ah well sorry, there was an entire thread on here where many people said reason is not considered a DAW.... and how is would fall more into the virtual instrument category.... which IMO is not accurate....

I know what refills do, I have several gigs of refills I downloaded over the years for various reason components (some for malstrom only, some for the samplers only etc... some mixed. I forget which ones I all have)

lol.. yea, ive got hella refills too. im just now learning all this vst stuff. i understand what you mean man. cats are always hating on reason. but point is, reason is dope, and it is a daw. reason has been around for a long time now, and it will continue to be. reason and record is the only daw i actually use.lol

yeah man, I havn't been with reason as long, I think I first got it when 2.5 was released... I think that was quite some time ago. I dont use it often though just cause I like VST pluggins and things like that.... however if those didn't exist reason would be my main thing.

plug-ins still confuse me. either i dont know where to put them, or i put em in the right place and only some of em show up. its like a wishing well..

inflict3 wrote:plug-ins still confuse me. either i dont know where to put them, or i put em in the right place and only some of em show up. its like a wishing well..

well some are instruments and synths etc.. you know what I'm talking about... and also there are thousands of various effects and tools which are also pluggins.

Often when I would use reason I would make sections and bits from reason things and after I would export those piece to use as samples in other stuff (on the mpc, on fl studio, on the mv, or what ever I feel like... )

some people hate the scream distortion but I personally think it's very nice!

For the love of god, when will the mindless PT worship end?

Yes Protools is/was a capable product, but it is outdated and and badly maintained. The main thing people seem to like is the work flow, but it doesn't really bring anything another DAW cannot do to the table. The 8 came out not so long ago and with it they finally added better midi support. Now they are already rollin' out version 9. And whoopididoo, still no native 64bit support. Saying stuff like your computer is too poor with too little ram is plain wrong. As long as PT is not a native 64 program it won't utilize more 3GB of ram either. That and the stability of the program in a 64bit enviroment is not anything to cheer about. And 64 bit tech has been around for a LONG time, it's not like it just came out.

There is a reason why they are ditching the digi hardware requirement now. Plain and simple sales are down and the drivers were never up to date and stable enough. For a good while the M-Powered version was the only one even running on a new system, due to the fact that M-audio did better job with their interface drivers then Digi did (yes they are the same company).

As for studio one, it looks like a promising app. It still has some maturing to do, but I was gladly surpriced at how compleate it was from version 1. Much more so then any other DAW in their first incarnation, and I would expect it to join the other more established DAWS in a short while. (If there are no huge marketing disasters).

Most modern DAWS offer pretty much the same tool sets, but the way you do the task at hand differs. So it's up to the users to choose the workflow they like the best.