vinyl only dudes?

jibber wrote:I got about 1'000 records and keep adding more.

In other words, yes, please give me vinyl... all day!

yeah
for ever and ever
i got many cd but i never listen to it
i give the cds to some friends as gifts usually...
i only listen some Mika Vainio (of Pan Sonic) cd from time to time because the sound of that stuff is very clean on cd,
but, for that minimal sh!t also, i still prefer vinyls

The OP is probably one of those people who think you have to only sample loops from records.
Vinyl is an unlimited sample source; I bet I could make beats for 6 months with one good record.

jibber wrote:I have sampled from a wav file sometimes, when there was something like a beat battle with some dudes. Maybe one or two times...

It just doesn't feel the same. Vinyl has soul. It inspires me. I got about 1'000 records and keep adding more.

In other words, yes, please give me vinyl... all day!

WARNING! You know what? It won't stop. 1000 records? You're already in the danger zone. There will be days when you think "damn these records take over my home. I need to get rid of them" but you will
go to the shop just to buy more and more and more. Another expedit, and then more records and more .........
Its so stupid to have all these records and you can do the math 1 side of a LP runs ca 20 minutes. so 40 minutes for 1 LP. 1000 LPs = 40000 minutes = ca 27 days music (NONSTOP!). But you just cant stop buying them.
I smoked weed like crazy back in the 90s but I quit it years ago but I cant quit buying records

peace

peterpiper wrote:WARNING! You know what? It won't stop. 1000 records? You're already in the danger zone. There will be days when you think "damn these records take over my home. I need to get rid of them" but you will
go to the shop just to buy more and more and more. Another expedit, and then more records and more .........
Its so stupid to have all these records and you can do the math 1 side of a LP runs ca 20 minutes. so 40 minutes for 1 LP. 1000 LPs = 40000 minutes = ca 27 days music (NONSTOP!). But you just cant stop buying them.

peterpiper speaks the truth!

god knows how long it would take to listen to all my vinyl ... months of non-stop listening, but I still buy more every week

and I love it

i dont see why dudes that buy records are suppose to start sampling from mp3's? to the OP you can justify youtube and blogs that sit there and UPLOAD songs from VINYL all you want but those recs come from vinyl... not cd's so there is still a purpose for us crate diggers

so its not a dying breed...

I actauly think i must use more vinylXD
I use alot of sounds from the nature such as water splat sounds and birds.
Also the internet is hypnotising me with al his bytes of samples.

bloc

Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:

peterpiper wrote:WARNING! You know what? It won't stop. 1000 records? You're already in the danger zone. There will be days when you think "damn these records take over my home. I need to get rid of them" but you will
go to the shop just to buy more and more and more. Another expedit, and then more records and more .........
Its so stupid to have all these records and you can do the math 1 side of a LP runs ca 20 minutes. so 40 minutes for 1 LP. 1000 LPs = 40000 minutes = ca 27 days music (NONSTOP!). But you just cant stop buying them.

peterpiper speaks the truth!

god knows how long it would take to listen to all my vinyl ... months of non-stop listening, but I still buy more every week

and I love it

same here... i'm definitely in the danger zone

When you ask me where the soul of Hip Hop has gone to, I always anwser that it left us when the lazy internet beatmakers came up.

People refuse to search and learn now a days and want everything on a piece of toast with a glass of milk.

thx wrote:

hm, Ozark Henry is from my country...but can you actually use any of his music to make a good sample ?? funny to see it here in 'hip hop' land as this guy makes no hip hop/funk or any of the genre's I relate to genres used to sample to make hiphop

seiko wrote:hm, Ozark Henry is from my country...but can you actually use any of his music to make a good sample ?? funny to see it here in 'hip hop' land as this guy makes no hip hop/funk or any of the genre's I relate to genres used to sample to make hiphop

Well, that's the fun and challenge of it. Take something completely unrelated and form it into your own style and self-expression. I look at a record (or any music source for that matter) like a lump of clay. Sure, a lump of clay doesn't look like much but with some creative skill it can turn into something amazing.

The usual sampling genres in hip hop will always be around and popular to sample, but stuff out of left field has the potential to create something really unique and interesting.

Is there a hipHop sample genre?? Sure there is Funk, Soul, Jazz but producers always used other genres. Think about Bambaataa and Kraftwerk, think about "Big Beat" Drums from Billy Squier
or what about all the OSTs that was sampled or classical music or music from india or elsewhere in the world. Many drumsamples are from rock records.

IMO there are just two genres when it comes to sampling.
1. Good to sample / easy to handle
2. Not good to sample but **** it I try it anyway

then when it comes to listening there are again two genres

1. Nice to listen to
2. get that mutta outta here

these genres can be combined and I feel very bad when I put a record on that is "sampling genre 1" and "listening genre 2" Nice samples all over the record, open drums, some horns and so on but simply bad music, bad arrangement, or boring to listen to
I also have some records that I wouldn't sample although they are so damn nice to listen to.

peace

jnorth wrote:Are there any Fred Flintstone **** out there who still refuse to evolve and use sources other than vinyl?

How do you get new records with stores dying quickly and with all the trash records in charity shops. Is sampling vinyl only even realistic now?

Assuming this isn't just a troll thread...


- Are there any Fred Flintstone **** out there who still refuse to evolve and use sources other than vinyl?

Yes/Probably.

- How do you get new records with stores dying quickly

By going to the ones that are still open.

- ... and with all the trash records in charity shops.

Don't buy the trash, just the ones you want.

- Is sampling vinyl only even realistic now?

Yes, unless you want to use a different source for a specific purpose. But its arguably better practice to make sure your sound source is analogue to avoid loss.


I'm interested to know what analogue audio sources are available to you, more abundant than vinyl.

the Ozark Henry record got some starnge synths sounds (i've checked it only for a few minutes, but seems interesting to sample)
today i've found a good Lalo Schifrin 45: Kelly's Heroes -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly%27s_Heroes
it's like a strange military march but with a funky bassline and a great fuzzy guitar

Every time these threads come up one has to wonder about the logic behind the reasoning.

Alright, if not for vinyl where are you sampling from? Ah, youtube and MP3's?
So what you say, get on with the times you dinosaur, eh?

Well there are several flaws in that:

1. You are getting a compressed audio source to start with
2. Where do you think the records came from. They magically self manifested on your favorite blog? No, someone actually went out to look for them, bought the vinyl, recorded to a computer, converted to MP3 and uploaded it. If you and others would also do this, there would be more record stores around.
3. You are not diggin' you are flipping thru what someone else dugg out.
4. You are limited to what someone else decides to put out there (even if it's the record companies)
5. You and 5000 other people at any given time.

Sabotage wrote:Every time these threads come up one has to wonder about the logic behind the reasoning.

Alright, if not for vinyl where are you sampling from? Ah, youtube and MP3's?
So what you say, get on with the times you dinosaur, eh?

Well there are several flaws in that:

1. You are getting a compressed audio source to start with
2. Where do you think the records came from. They magically self manifested on your favorite blog? No, someone actually went out to look for them, bought the vinyl, recorded to a computer, converted to MP3 and uploaded it. If you and others would also do this, there would be more record stores around.
3. You are not diggin' you are flipping thru what someone else dugg out.
4. You are limited to what someone else decides to put out there (even if it's the record companies)
5. You and 5000 other people at any given time.

1 isnt vinyl compressed too?
2 you are forgetting cd's
3 so what
4 see '3' + if your only diggin vinyl.. you're limited too
5 huh.. explain this better please