whats the best ADAT?

a brand new record, no scratches or scuffs or any imperfections, through a quality stylus and good hi-fi system has a higher level of fidelity than any cd ever could...

sampling old vinyl onto a casette tape is lo-fi. the current format is 16/44.1 so how is that lo-fi, since it is the same as the spec of the mpc. sound sources and multitrack recorders are 2 differnt things. this guy was asking about a recorder not an mpc. adat's are sh!tty period! have u ever used one jaem? aside from the converters and clock issues u have the cost of those adat tapes. please show me the advantage of an adat. also on to of that it is important to master a software program because if u don't u will go the way of the adat.

for a multitrack u want it to record what u put into it and adat's just don't do it, because there are better options for less money. I don't claim to know it all about recording technology, but i hate when people people that don't even know the basics give other people advice.

If multiple inputs,portability and price are a concern then I would look into getting a used Roland VS series recorder.1680's can be had for $500-$600 all day long.They record at 16 bit and the sound is damn good.They have internal hard drives which gives you hours of recording time and they are the size of a laptop.I did'nt believe it at first but Kanye West recorded College Dropout and everything he produced before it using a VS 1680.He would do the beats at home then record the outputs from his ASR and MPC into the VS1680 and then take the VS1680 to a professional recording studio and track out the beats so that he could add session players and vocals plus have the advantage of a quality mixdown on quality equipment.A friend of mine is an assistant engineer at a couple of big NYC studios and he told me that before the advent of the home Pro-Tools set up that alot of producers/beatmakers worked in this fashion to avoid carrying around and setting up a bunch of diffrent samplers and keyboards.Allthough hardware recorders are starting to fall buy the wayside they are still a very viable option for someone looking for good sound and portability.

I've ran multitrack jazz and funk recording sessions with ADATs and DA88s.
The sound quality of both CAN be better than most computer setups using entry level i/o (ie m-audio, and the like)

as far as lo-fi....vinyl enthusiats like myself can hear the sonic differences between records and 16/44.1

as far as not knowing the basics.....check your ego at the door homie

a good producer/engineer can use anything and make it sound good....ADAT, DA88, Alsihad, and even tape decks. (I still own 2 tascam 4 tracks)

and for the record....I been in this shit since mixtapes were recorded on cassette!!!!

of course u can hear sonic differences between 16/44.1 and vinyl because they are mastered differently. certain frequencies will make a stylus jump out of a groove so they are cut. i never heard anyone call vinyl lo-fi. sure it is a different from digital but by no means lo-fi. 2" tape is analog and no one would say that it is lo-fi. just judging by what u say it seems u know nothing. i am stating facts and u r stating your opinion. also u r talking about m-audio and motu set-ups come on man those things are toys. lets talk real recording gear.

quit bickering yall....

the BETTER set-up will have both ADAT and some form of software integrated, the best of both worlds...

also, a used ADAT and a PCI card with ADAT optical input/putputs will give you an inexpensive solution for 8 analog inputs/outputs to your computer...

ADATS are dope... converters on my XT20 are pretty good if you ask me...

jaem wrote:I never said the studios were lo-fi. Hip hop is lo fi. It was created due to lack of instruments and music education in the inner city.

Sampling old vinyl into an MPC then onto a recorder is definately lo-fi

I believe the term you are looking for is not lo-fi, but grimmie. Like the street, and the mc's, This is done on purpose now, real gutter like. You dont need music education, when you inventing as you go! This cultur was invented from the bottom up! Any who, even guys who still make there beats on so called lo-fi eps keyboards, still go get there mixes done on ssl's and such.... The "lo-fi" is an effect... and its loved!

I love overdriving my basslines, samples, and synths especially through and avalon, or filthy it up a bit on a 1176 with all btuuons in, or whatever. Then I convert through a APogee trak 2, to keep the sound Ive come up with as identical as it can be digital.

adats are cool.

yeah charlie that is what i have been saying. there is a difference to adding distortion on purpose by compression or with a sound destructor like scream 4 and tracking the sound that u are happy with into something that is going to change it for the worse. all buttons mode on the 1176ln is sick it is by far my favorite compressor