drums

3 years and counting.

i bang drums quick cus im use to drumming on a lunch room table so beat are programmed into my head and i also study peoples drum beat and reconstructed them to learn how they where done

It takes me some time. The way I always work is I make the drum patterns in my head. ALL THE TIME. I try switchin everything up different patterns. Then I make something that I call "bare bones" tracks and go back to it and give it life.

And sometimes I make a whole beat, and listen to it over and over. 9 times out of 10 it can be better so I make it better. Maybe a sound was wak or maybe something is off.

Most of the time it takes me some time to get the right sound.

I spend as long as it takes to get my drums right. Whether it be 30 minutes or 2 days.

AMG wrote:Do you mean as far as sound? Or arrangement? Both?

Do you know if it takes a long time to arrange the drums on a mpc1000, i just purchased 1 and i am having a hard time arranging my drums, far as getting started to lay down the drum and what functions to use i have no clue, i play around with the main screen but dont know where to start to arrange the drums, if you could me out this would be appreciated. 1

i work at guitar center in san jose i bang on the mpc1000 all the time its a little differrent from the rest you just got to get use to it. it took me like 3 days to lockin on the sequencer. but know that i have it. its the same as a mpc2000xl or any other mpc they are made so you can move from 0ne to the next and get work done practice put its at 95bpm thats the closest bpm to what the body natural rythem and just keep bangin till you get it

QUESTOR006 F.U wrote:i work at guitar center in san jose i bang on the mpc1000 all the time its a little differrent from the rest you just got to get use to it. it took me like 3 days to lockin on the sequencer. but know that i have it. its the same as a mpc2000xl or any other mpc they are made so you can move from 0ne to the next and get work done practice put its at 95bpm thats the closest bpm to what the body natural rythem and just keep bangin till you get it

ight thanks so have a question for you if you dont mind me asking? Ok on the main screen of the MPC1000, what functions do i use to start making a beat, do i press mode and a certain pad that will allow me to arrange my beats? Or do i go into the sequencer and arange them there first? if so how do i record the first beat at? I am just confused as to what buttons do i use to make my beats come together as a while. If you can help me out that would be koo..........1

you have to go into song mode on the mpc1000 to arrange all your sequences into a song try to push shift and song on the #pad at work to day i will check in to it more and let you know to night

QUESTOR006 F.U wrote:you have to go into song mode on the mpc1000 to arrange all your sequences into a song try to push shift and song on the #pad at work to day i will check in to it more and let you know to night

yo the help would be crazy appreciated yo for real........1

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study drum masters around and maybe or maybe not sample their sounds.... thats the reason I buy any timbaland produced track on a cd dre got hot shit and premier's is the clearest

Prizm_Master wrote:study drum masters around and maybe or maybe not sample their sounds.... thats the reason I buy any timbaland produced track on a cd dre got hot **** and premier's is the clearest

is Drum Masters a Software?

id say. My patterns dont take that long. Pretty much what works with the groove of the track (thats if im doing samples first) if i do drums first, i just do whatever tight pattern im feeling. Overall the patterns become quicker and quicker with more epxperience (but thats not 100% true)

but sculpting each sound is what takes time. I think it depends on the track. But I fit my drums to each other. and the whole set of drums to the track. So it can take some time.

Basically when im making my track, im mixing and matching drums, more-so then eqing and compressing them. When im making a track The drums either fit, or they dont, its just selecting drums from my library, tuning, and building sets, making patterns. If they fit.......usually its only minor tweaking left-any minor tweaking i do is in the mixing/recording process. But the drums are 90% there. The minor tweaking includes eq and compression and things that are outside the mpc.

My philosophy is to have a good sound to begin with, then just taylor it to the track. Im experienced enough to make the call on whether the sound will be a problem later in the mixing/fine tuning process.

[quote="cyrus"]id say. My patterns dont take that long. Pretty much what works with the groove of the track (thats if im doing samples first) if i do drums first, i just do whatever tight pattern im feeling. Overall the patterns become quicker and quicker with more epxperience (but thats not 100% true)

but sculpting each sound is what takes time. I think it depends on the track. But I fit my drums to each other. and the whole set of drums to the track. So it can take some time.

Basically when im making my track, im mixing and matching drums, more-so then eqing and compressing them. When im making a track The drums either fit, or they dont, its just selecting drums from my library, tuning, and building sets, making patterns. If they fit.......any minor tweaking i do in the mixing/recording process. But the drums are 90% there. The minor tweaking includes eq and compression.

My philosophy is to have a good sound to begin with, then just taylor it to the track. Im experienced enough to make the call on whether the sound will be a problem later in the mixing/fine tuning process. eqing and compression isnt part of the creative process.[/quote

Ok so how do u start a pattern on the MPC1000?

load up your drum sounds and assign them to the pads.

you need atleast a kick, snare, and hihat. Most of the time this is all you need. But if you want to get creative you can add other types of percussion.

hit play and record. Let the metronome play...once recording starts....play your pattern! Learn how to set the amount of bars you want to play, and realize that you will be looping the bars.

if you cant play the drums. Start off with just the kick and snare. Play boom bap boom boom bap. Just play it. Then try to play the hihat with it, eventually youll get it.

simple as that.

Sometimes you need to manually record your drums........this is differant then what i described above. THis is called step recording. To do this with drums you need to know about timing, and patterns. I suggest using a search, cause its too long to explain.

Try out fruity loops. Load up some preset beat patterns and look at where the drums are to learn about step recording and patterns.

here is some drum tab to learn about patterns. You are gonna need to learn how to step edit with the mpc1000 (read the manual) and learn what 16ths, 8ths,1/4 notes, 32nds notes are:

read this first:
http://www.mxtabs.net/content.php?file= ... _Bass_Tabs

then try this pattern.

http://www.mxtabs.net/tabs.php?path=Dru ... Egos,73926

Other than that, i suggest you meet up with another mpc owner and have them teach you.

Here are some rules of thumb for basic boom bap (hiphop drums): snares are on the 2 and 4. That is, the 2nd beat and 4th beat of a bar on the mpc timing it would like this 1:2:00 and 1:4:00. The hihats are usually every 8th note of a bar, and the kicks are placed inbetween the snares using 16th notes (rarely played the same time as the snare) to get differant feel to the patterns you need to add swing or groove.

peace

cyrus wrote:load up your drum sounds and assign them to the pads.

you need atleast a kick, snare, and hihat. Most of the time this is all you need. But if you want to get creative you can add other types of percussion.

hit play and record. Let the metronome play...once recording starts....play your pattern! Learn how to set the amount of bars you want to play, and realize that you will be looping the bars.

if you cant play the drums. Start off with just the kick and snare. Play boom bap boom boom bap. Just play it. Then try to play the hihat with it, eventually youll get it.

simple as that.

Sometimes you need to manually record your drums........this is differant then what i described above. THis is called step recording. To do this with drums you need to know about timing, and patterns. I suggest using a search, cause its too long to explain.

Try out fruity loops. Load up some preset beat patterns and look at where the drums are to learn about step recording and patterns.

here is some drum tab to learn about patterns. You are gonna need to learn how to step edit with the mpc1000 (read the manual) and learn what 16ths, 8ths,1/4 notes, 32nds notes are:

read this first:
http://www.mxtabs.net/content.php?file= ... _Bass_Tabs

then try this pattern.

http://www.mxtabs.net/tabs.php?path=Dru ... Egos,73926

Other than that, i suggest you meet up with another mpc owner and have them teach you.

Here are some rules of thumb for basic boom bap (hiphop drums): snares are on the 2 and 4. That is, the 2nd beat and 4th beat of a bar on the mpc timing it would like this 1:2:00 and 1:4:00. The hihats are usually every 8th note of a bar, and the kicks are placed inbetween the snares using 16th notes (rarely played the same time as the snare) to get differant feel to the patterns you need to add swing or groove.

peace

man i really appreciate your time and patience for real fam im gonna take all this info you gave me and get bizzy with the mpc. once again thanks fam.............1