Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By stryke Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:43 am
Damn Tomb,you were on the money man.Good info.

I think keeping your name out there is the most important thing.Look at how D is always on his grind.You want to be like that so people remember you.The worst thing any of us could probably ever hear in this industry is "Oh,where have you been?" or "When are you coming out with something new?"IMO

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By GRMM D Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:47 am
mwalker wrote:never take "no" as an answer/be result driven
believe in yourself/skills/talent/dreams and the ability to get the job done
deal with ups and downs
have a understanding of "the best is yet to be born"/you are who you are
keep your chops up
always be ready to perform/show your talent
have short, mid and long term goals

the goals portion is the most important followed by dealing with ups and downs. there are going to be good days and some f*cked up days, always be ready to perform/show your talent at a drop of a hat (you may only get one chance). your talent and allot of luck is the key to success.

always remember:

a goal without a plan is only a dream.



WORD DA PHUK UP
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By Smoove03 Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:01 pm
yea im feelin what mwalker is sayin. and the comment about people gettin used to hearin your name is right on
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By dubmunkey Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:53 pm
My advice: find out how TLC went bankrupt after selling 10 million records and do the exact opposite. haha.

seriously...
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well a common misnomer about these artists and record deals is that they are instant millionaires as soon as they sign....most record deals are actually loans....the loan has to cover all production and promotions costs- so out of a 500k deal 200 goes on making the album and 300 goes to the promotion (and yes companies favour promotion over product) but the artists has to pay that back through sales- but wait they only get 10% of those record sales themselves so they have to pay back the 500k loan first with that 10% and its only after that they start making a profit....

they get bungs and stuff to keep them happy whilst this is all going on and obviously merchandising and promotions all contribute but its a common misnomer that if you sell 10 million records all that money is yours....actually only 10% (thats if your big- will be less) of it is and thats only after you've paid the original deal off...

therefore peeps like Robbie Williams who have just got a 40M deal and is supposed to be breaking america will ultimately fail to make huge profits due to the amount he had to recoup and the fact that he'll wont break the states....

this apart from my artistic preferences is one reason im not interested in the mainstream market in any way.....reminds me a bit of a story i heard:

bentley rhythm ace were talking to UB40 who shared a studio- the bentleys were very happy they had broken the 10k sales barrier- UB40 were gutted their album flopped at over million sales- id rather sound like the bentleys than ub40 so therefore recognise the kinds of numbers involved

sorry smoov this has got a bit OT...

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By The Beat Conductor Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:13 pm
After I graduate from high school, what do I need to do to get a career in music?
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By featherboy Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:33 pm
After I graduate from high school, what do I need to do to get a career in music?


Go to college.....
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By Smoove03 Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:05 pm
conductor thats actually a good question...i've had that question for a while. what some people seem to be doin is gettin a trade or something. Going to a school for something like Audio Engineering or something. soome kind of trade, course or school that will train you specifically in that field so you can get certified doin stuff like that or something....

By fader-pro Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:47 pm
You gotta be connected...If you're a preformer, get a band and go on the road. Work on your chops, Get an agent. If you're a writer, it beats me. I spent 6 years on the road and then ended up making commercials...go figure. With the commercial gig, I was able to eventually break out from the studio I was working at and open my own. ( I took my clients with me) With my own studio, I was finally able to start making real music...you know, songs more than 30 seconds long. If you just want to be "in the biz" do anythying you can get your hands on and be a shameless self promoter...

By The Beat Conductor Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:24 pm
Smoove03 wrote:conductor thats actually a good question...i've had that question for a while. what some people seem to be doin is gettin a trade or something. Going to a school for something like Audio Engineering or something. soome kind of trade, course or school that will train you specifically in that field so you can get certified doin stuff like that or something....


Thanks, but, how is that going to get me a career as a record producer (beat maker/what ever?).
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By featherboy Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:32 pm
Smoove03 Going to a school for something like Audio Engineering or something.

The Beat Conductor Thanks, but, how is that going to get me a career as a record producer (beat maker/what ever?).


Why do think that studying audio engineering or music or maybe a more general business, marketing, media or IT course wouldn't help you then get a better footing in the music business?
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By Smoove03 Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:51 pm
from what I understand, schools can train you and eventually get you internships in real studios. and I guess you go from there..............

man, why would you think extra knowledge or a degree or a certificate (or whatever) wouldn't help you in the future? I thought thats what you were tryna get experience in...

What do you think the next step is after high school?
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By Skiggy Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:28 am
I think for most people it's necessary to develop a plan, it's one thing to have a dream but if you don't have a plan to reach that, then it's just a dream, I would tell someone to develop a plan, and stay dedicated to that plan, don't get sidetracked just keep working hard, you have to think about how much you want it and what your willing to sacrifice
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By bobbydesign Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:20 am
i dropped out of music production and visual arts at uni. As far as music goes, 50% of what i was hearing i already knew and 50% of what i was hearing i didn't have the hands on skills base to understand. So i made a commitment to spend however much uni was going to cost me on building that hands on skills base, and building up my range of tools. And yeah im limited to what i can afford, but that forces me to get the best out of something before moving up a rung to the next peice of eqiptment.

go to uni (college) because you want to go, not becuase you think its going to make you. I loved it, but i knew i needed to do things on my own.
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By tewamor Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:09 am
Aerodynamics wrote:My advice: find out how TLC went bankrupt after selling 10 million records and do the exact opposite. haha.

I know you were joking, but I wanted to mention that despite there bankruptcy, they came back and are still popular. So in the long run they were successful. If going bankrupt is what it takes before you achieve greatness....then I'm down. But I would rather not go bankrupt, plus be successful. Now someone I wouldn't pattern myself after is MC Hammer. He's an idiot.
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By Smoove03 Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:19 pm
how long were you going to school bobby?