es-k wrote:man i just read through this thread and some people have posted some really inspiring stuff
good shiit. lets make an mpc forums tips and tricks pdf haha
drukqs2369 wrote:obviously i didnt write this & it is a technique i am yet to try for building up my own kits ect but i thought id share to give back a little to this thread since im taking alot out of it;
This is a simple yet fairly hard to master technique to improve the sound of your beats called multing.
This is not the same as layering different sounds to fatten up drum hits. (Also a great technique)
With Multing we are splitting a sound (for example a kick drum) into 2 or 3 different duplicates and we are treating each copy differently before merging them all back together on a buss.
Multing can be done in the analog domain, on an analog console, or digitally, inside a DAW for example.
To start with take the snare track (or kick track) and create 2 copies of it.
Send each track to the same group channel or buss.
We want to think of each of our copies of the snare as different 'portions' of the sound.
So the first will be our attack, or snap.
The second will be be the meat or body of our snare.
The third will be the tail.
We need to process each track differently so that we are bringing out just the portion we want, and not the rest.
So for our first track, our attack portion, use a compressor, followed by an EQ to really bring out the initial crack or snap of the snare. It will likely sound terrible on its own.
For the second track we went the meat of the snare. Again use a compressor followed by an EQ to emphasise the belly of the sound, and shape the rest out of it. Similarly to our first track it will likely sound strange on its own.
Finally take the third track and do the same, this time emphasizing the tail sound.
Then you will need to adjust the levels of all three of the tracks to 'mix' them to taste.
You will likley need to practice this technique a lot before you get the results you are after - but when you do crack it, your hits will be bigger than they ever were before...
Remember that different compressors and EQs have very different flavours, different colours to their sounds.
Different compressors have very different characteristics in terms of how fast they can attack for example. So bear this in mind, as predictably, you'll want to choose the right compressor and EQ combination for each track.
TIP: instead of a compressor on the attack mult, maybe try an SPL Transient Designer, or one of the plug in emulations like Waves TransMod.
TIP: instead of splitting the sound according to different portions, split it according to frequency - bass mids, and high end.
TIP: try mixing the original sound in with the mults aswell
TIP: try a compressor on the group channel or buss, to help 'glue' the mults back together
TIP: try multing a vocal. A simple vocal mult might be just to run the clean vocal alongside a slightly distorted version to dirty it up a little.
hope this makes sence and helps some one!
es-k wrote::!:
i wish i had the time to compile all this ****. there are some great things in here
ShakyCrates wrote:anyone got some compression tricks/ideas for bass? how to get it more focused or stable or what you say. now i just stomp it whit a comp, seems to work some but not really on point
drukqs2369 wrote:obviously i didnt write this & it is a technique i am yet to try for building up my own kits ect but i thought id share to give back a little to this thread since im taking alot out of it;
This is a simple yet fairly hard to master technique to improve the sound of your beats called multing.
This is not the same as layering different sounds to fatten up drum hits. (Also a great technique)
With Multing we are splitting a sound (for example a kick drum) into 2 or 3 different duplicates and we are treating each copy differently before merging them all back together on a buss.
Multing can be done in the analog domain, on an analog console, or digitally, inside a DAW for example.
To start with take the snare track (or kick track) and create 2 copies of it.
Send each track to the same group channel or buss.
We want to think of each of our copies of the snare as different 'portions' of the sound.
So the first will be our attack, or snap.
The second will be be the meat or body of our snare.
The third will be the tail.
We need to process each track differently so that we are bringing out just the portion we want, and not the rest.
So for our first track, our attack portion, use a compressor, followed by an EQ to really bring out the initial crack or snap of the snare. It will likely sound terrible on its own.
For the second track we went the meat of the snare. Again use a compressor followed by an EQ to emphasise the belly of the sound, and shape the rest out of it. Similarly to our first track it will likely sound strange on its own.
Finally take the third track and do the same, this time emphasizing the tail sound.
Then you will need to adjust the levels of all three of the tracks to 'mix' them to taste.
You will likley need to practice this technique a lot before you get the results you are after - but when you do crack it, your hits will be bigger than they ever were before...
Remember that different compressors and EQs have very different flavours, different colours to their sounds.
Different compressors have very different characteristics in terms of how fast they can attack for example. So bear this in mind, as predictably, you'll want to choose the right compressor and EQ combination for each track.
TIP: instead of a compressor on the attack mult, maybe try an SPL Transient Designer, or one of the plug in emulations like Waves TransMod.
TIP: instead of splitting the sound according to different portions, split it according to frequency - bass mids, and high end.
TIP: try mixing the original sound in with the mults aswell
TIP: try a compressor on the group channel or buss, to help 'glue' the mults back together
TIP: try multing a vocal. A simple vocal mult might be just to run the clean vocal alongside a slightly distorted version to dirty it up a little.
hope this makes sence and helps some one!
rare wrote:copy the style of your favorite producers, learn how they made there beats, sample them chop them and experiment with it
everything includeing sounds and timing
try to make dilla sounding beats, primo beats etc
when you know all their tricks i will have the best weapons to develope your on style and then share your music
(painter do copy a lot for study you know)
rare wrote:
(painter do copy a lot for study you know)
es-k wrote:rare wrote:
(painter do copy a lot for study you know)
it is true that in most art classes.. one of the main things they have you do is copy famous artists work. its not a bad idea when it comes to learning specific techniques. only helps build your arsenal.
about "sampling your fav producer".. i dont really see how that could be useful. i can understand trying to emulate their sound.. but what would sampling a jaydee beat do for you?
