Kick track1, Snare track2 seperating tracks why?

woah i missed 2 pages of thread, but i'm really asking wtf?!:-) really asking about using a different track for differnet drums?!


u can alter the timing individually, you want one doing a different swing amount... like somone i saw sadi before...

what about changing velocity, if one's too high, it's easier to just go into 1 screen.


a lot of itmes another pattern in a song will just be a pattern with amute in it. much easier to just copy it and edi it.

it's simply a lot easier. it's more managed. it's more organized. what's so hard about hitting track + each time u want to go to another track? lol... you can solo to hear that 1 part, if u need to rework it. many reasons...

why the **** would u use only 1 track...hmmm

and he is right, it's a mad mpc rookie thing to do only use 1 track. because like said, copying tracks is a lot eaiser than copying drums individually.

in the future you might want to change up your track. maybe youll hear it in a few months, say "that shit was dope but that bass lien was off, let me throw a different one in" much easier if you can open it up switch up the bassline with something else...

cooocooo1 wrote:

Fist Full of Dollaz wrote:when tracking out a track, the track mute screen doesnt need to be used u can do fine edits after its recorded in whatever software

thats exactly what I do but you're missing the point of muting tracks in this case...

if you have more than 8 parts to track and you want EVERY part to have it's own track what do you do with the other tracks? If you dont mute them they will be recorded along with whatever else is assigned to that output/input and you'll end up with 8 tracks that have more then one part per track

I just change whats assigned to the outs

u cant record more than 8 anyway so its gonna have to be changed regardless if u have more than that, which most people usually do have more

are u guys talking about tracks or outputs?:p

u can record 10 on a 3k and 60 no?:o what about the 4000?

M.ic P.ro C.rusher wrote:BTW, if you wanna battle, I'm not the one, for real. Not only would I straight eat you up, but I don't post my beats online to be jacked. Instead, I'm down to do a Drum Beat battle, since you think I insulted your drums and that's what this is all about.

Jac you posted a good thread, don;t ruin it trying to prove yourself to someone you don;t really give a shyt about. Mic pro crusher, cut this shyt out. we're trying to talk techniques, leave your attitude at the door.

these kind of threads are what this place is supposed to be about. swallow your pride and forget the nonsense.

I always use new tracks for new elements, but I keep kick and snare on the same track and sometimes a hihat if it's part of the raw pattern. I get my levels right on input with velocity, so I rarely need the flexibility of having separate tracks with them If I do then I separate them, but no sense doing the work unless you really need it.

BTW, the 60 and 3000 have 99 tracks per sequence, since they can control 64 extrernal midi channels. They are there to be used and a lot of the MPC really comes alive when you work with separate tracks like that.

elmacaco wrote:They are there to be used and a lot of the MPC really comes alive when you work with separate tracks like that.

Co-Sign.

I dont really think that you would understand why you would want drums on different tracks unless you really got into tweaking your drums i.e. in step edit or seq edit (on the 4000). When you go into step edit on a track designated for a kick you know right away that you are only tweaking a kick and nothing else. Also, I use step edit to remind me of the pad that the sample is on, i.e. "oh that kick is on B10" from knowing that i can go into the mixer page, sample edit page, on and on, knowing full well what sample I am tweaking. I find it invaluable and a huge time saver in my work flow. Also as was mentioned swinging is easier this way. Seperating tracks makes things more organized and visually obvious to me. FOR ME IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRACKING.

I do though, record all my drums on one track at first, then i copy them as many times as i need to and delete the sounds i dont need from each one. It is well worth the 30secs it takes...


MaZe

elmacaco wrote:Jac you posted a good thread, don;t ruin it trying to prove yourself to someone you don;t really give a shyt about. Mic pro crusher, cut this shyt out. we're trying to talk techniques, leave your attitude at the door.

these kind of threads are what this place is supposed to be about. swallow your pride and forget the nonsense.

Yo, I've been on these forums for a few years, and have NEVER started beef with anyone that didn't come at me with it first. I mean, I didn't even get into it with this kid when everyone else did. We were having a polite (allbeit high energy) debate, this dude insults me, I defend myself (I admit with a li'l attitude, but hey, dude insulted me), he takes offense and wants to battle, I again explain my side, but having a bit of pride and a HUGE sarcastic streak semi-accept the challenge and this is my bad?

Aight, if you say so...





























I apologize

nah man it isn;t your bad, it's just the way the situation goes, I know you got self control, but there's no reason for it to escalate on either end, the discussion is decent.

elmacaco wrote:nah man it isn;t your bad, it's just the way the situation goes, I know you got self control, but there's no reason for it to escalate on either end, the discussion is decent.

All good. S'all love, baby. No hurt feelings here....

Peace1

good points by everyone almost....for me, I just lay 'em all to one track unless I'm doing something special to a particular track...I find it easier and sometimes (Quite often) they're fine the way they go down....

Since I don`t want all my notes to line up on the same exact timing hits aka (absolute quantizing), I record on separate tracks and shift each forward or back by a few ticks to separate the sounds aka (partial quantizing). Plus if I want to go into changing the duration, velocity or add control changes pitch, attack, volume, the release, using qlink it is easier on separate tracks to write and read automation on the mpc aka (pad control). Another thing if I want to do (program changes) it is easier too to set the changes on the tracks.

Lastly midi seq tracks and audio channels are two different things. As long as I got 8 analog outputs, adat or stereo it doesn`t matter about the seq track (unless I recording midi too) cuz I can go into Mulit page or program page and set the (audio outputs as I like.

MIDI A, B, C, D output are important for the sequencer tracks to play a sound module or into a DAW midi track assign to the mpc midi output which is assign to the track where the notes are recorded.

Remember we are dealing with a sampler first we can assign the sound to any audio output. As far as the midi sequencer track recording if I have all my drums in the same program and I`m doing all my mixing, eqing and etc in a outboard DAW yes a single sequencer track is ok.

If I want to do more editing later, with more effects and even live playing on the mpc I definitively want to have each part separate along with the percussive elements to tweak my sequencer how I want is just like a dj.

Basically separate sequencer tracks are just for midi editing, not necessary important for only audio recording into a DAW or HDR.

I would think the answer is obvious. In addition to what has already been mentioned about volumes and effects, the more simple answer is....how exactly would you do a break down if all your drum sounds are on what track? If you wanted to take out the hi hat for a few bars, how would you go about that if all your sounds were on one track? If you wanted to mute the kick during a quick breakdown, how would you do that if all your sounds are on one track? I always figured this method was a no-brainer. I guess if you create boring drum loops that never change up, then the one-track method makes sense.