Why are we the most hated on??

samples or the motif? who give a shit. man if you working with either one cool, if you use both even better. hip hop is a ho and dont deserve that kind of attention no way. anybody who know hos know they dont wanna be bothered with one ***** for too long, so why is you sitting up here saying "i love hip hop and got a passion for the music, so hip hop must gon love me back." basically it all come down to making a good run before the **** get tired of you. sample that shiit, play that shit on the motif, **** it jack that beat, whatever you do, do it big, do it fast, and do it alot cause before you know it people gon be sayin "i wonder what happened to so and so? he was one of my favorite producers"

Skiggy wrote:Quoted by Phiily Stress : The far majority of the Producer on this ain't got gold and Platinum Plaques on there wall and Probably never will!!
So go with what you know!!



Damn, Philly Stessed Out, I don't know what's wrong with your sh!t, but I got platinum ready music right now

Until I see the Plaq and the $25,000 Check stub............


Boise, Ain't that the headquarter of the Ayran Nations?????

I didn't read every post in this forum but I don't like it when others judge what is real hip-hop. I hate it when I hear someone say "Oh, that's commercial." Hip-Hop is about creativity. Its about expressing the way you feel. How can you say whats real and fake hip-hop? If lil Jon and Snoop are going platinum whats that tell you? If you want to make stuff that only you feel, cool "keep it real", and sell your 20 copies. On the flip don't get mad at lil John and Snoop for moving the masses and selling platinum. TO quote the "mindless" Lil John, "Quit hatin mu-@#$#@, Quit hatin"

This was posted by someone at a rap thread going on right now at DigiDesign.com forum.

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Well, there are pretty much three types of Hip-Hop producers I'll explain each:

"The Vinyl Head"---these guys spend hours and days extracting drum hits, strings, horns, breaks, whatever until they have insane libraries of samples from old records. they travel the country looking for limited and private press vinyl that no one else will have. Most common gear is an Akai MPC, either an MPC30, MPS60, or the newest models available. The E-MuSP1200 is also popular for the ultra gritty sound. The They pride themselves in the secret records that they get there sounds from. It's very hard to make gritty sounding Hip-Hop without this. While people try to get vintage recording gear, these guy are using sounds recorded 40 years ago with obsolete gear and those true old school techniques. These are the guys that consider Hip-hop production an art of collage and preservation of music long lost and forgotten about. Think about it...some old soul crew that struggles there hole lives trying to get a record deal records an album with all the money they have, press 100 copies to send out as demos, and fail. They never got anywhere and that was there only mark in the vast world of recorded music. It get forgotten about until guys like DJ Shadow, RJD2, Cut Chemist, etc. dig this stuff up and make a new song out of parts of it. Really...it's a beautiful thing...

"The New Schooler"---These guy use keyboards and sound modules. They make beats like electronic artists do. An MPC or a computer sequencing outboard gear. This is the sound of the newer fresh sounding clear textured sounds like Jay-Z and DMX. Swizz Beats comes to mind with this kind of beatmaking.

"The In-Between"---These guys combine synths, drum machines, and sound modules along with old sounds sampled from records. I really like this style personally. The RZA is the king of this! It combines clean leads and bass with old drums. I love it.

"The Lopping *****"---These guys use Fruity Loops, Acid, and whatever cheap software their $400 PCs can run. Sure these softwares can be great for producers who like to make there own loops and arrange them in one of these audio sequencers...but I said their OWN LOOPS! These jack-asses that buy Fruity Loops for $100 and slap together some of the loops already in there and think they are instant producers are IDIOTS. They are the lowest of the low in the chain of music. Ali-G is a better musician than these dolts. They have zero skill, talent, or patience. They don't want to learn how to EQ and compress that kick drum to make it thump, they take an entire 4 bar beat loop some one else made and duplicate it for 4 minutes. These people should die.

I won't lie theres's a lot of skinhead racist **** in Northern Idaho, not in Boise, but how I'm gonna be a Black aryan nation? that don't make no damn sense, and what the fukkkk does that gotta do with my music, lets hear your shit check me out at http://www.soundclick.com/skiggyska

Sounds like a challenge to me Mr Stress aka Mr hip hop! Lol!

"They have zero skill, talent, or patience. They don't want to learn how to EQ and compress that kick drum to make it thump, they take an entire 4 bar beat loop some one else made and duplicate it for 4 minutes. These people should die."

Skiggy wrote:I won't lie theres's a lot of skinhead racist **** in Northern Idaho, not in Boise, but how I'm gonna be a Black aryan nation? that don't make no damn sense, and what the fukkkk does that gotta do with my music, lets hear your **** check me out at http://www.soundclick.com/skiggyska

Let's See that platinum Plaq you wuz Braggin about first ,Fam. AND the Check
Stub for that Check showin you got paid!



"The Underground Baby, we like Roaches always livin neva Dyin"- Dj Premier

djcomplex wrote:I didn't read every post in this forum but I don't like it when others judge what is real hip-hop. I hate it when I hear someone say "Oh, that's commercial." Hip-Hop is about creativity. Its about expressing the way you feel. How can you say whats real and fake hip-hop? If lil Jon and Snoop are going platinum whats that tell you? If you want to make stuff that only you feel, cool "keep it real", and sell your 20 copies. On the flip don't get mad at lil John and Snoop for moving the masses and selling platinum. TO quote the "mindless" Lil John, "Quit hatin mu-@#$#@, Quit hatin"

Lil Jon SUCKS,MAN!! SHEESH!! I'D RATHER LISTEN TO FAY BOY SLIM,HE SOUNDS MORE LIKE HIP-HOP THAN LIL JON!! I'd Rather listen to Linkin Park

The Neptunes on the other hand okay are very inconsistant, but the Snoop Track is Hot!

Three CD's I'm Listening to Now with dope Beats:

The Realness-Cormega(Near Classic! only 1 corny Beat)
1st Infantry-Alchemist(Heat!)
Main Ingrident-Pete Rock & Cl Smooth (Classic Production!)

*Extra Credit Pimp don't pay taxes-J-zone (Classic J-zone Prod.)

I can't wait til The Pete Rock ED OG LP comes out!!

This is were my Head is Beatwise

Philly Stress wrote:

Skiggy wrote:I won't lie theres's a lot of skinhead racist **** in Northern Idaho, not in Boise, but how I'm gonna be a Black aryan nation? that don't make no damn sense, and what the fukkkk does that gotta do with my music, lets hear your **** check me out at http://www.soundclick.com/skiggyska

Let's See that platinum Plaq you wuz Braggin about first ,Fam. AND the Check
Stub for that Check showin you got paid!



"The Underground Baby, we like Roaches always livin neva Dyin"- Dj Premier

Why it got to be about money or plaqs! Aint hip hop all about the love. Why dont you show us what a "REAL HIP HOP BEAT" sounds like! Or are you one of them dudes that would scream on there girl or kids for asking you to buying them a cd that is quote on quote not real hip hop. Get mad cause when you left your car you came back and they took out your ReAL hip cd and had the radio playing! lol

did someone say presets? most presets are wank....wehther its a triton or whatever- you are meant to program your own sounds and not rely on presets....if your one of those types ignore phil, pick one up and start programming your own signature sounds...i personally wouldn't touch one iwth a barge pole but thats just me....

dont use presets...

greg

young keys you my homie but im not sure if new-schooler would be the name for the ones who use keyboards to create their tracks. yea there's really a difference between music now and then. there's definately a cleaner sound. but folks were making their own melodies then too! melodies that the vinyl headz extract now and use in their music.

i agree with the definitions. and the last one was funny. im not gonna clown them fruity loop catz cause i started using nothing but software and i believe without dreamstation or fruity loops or hammerhead or cool edit i wouldnt be shit. thats how i learned. maybe someday they'll move to the next level. you know?

Smoove03 wrote:young keys you my homie but im not sure if new-schooler would be the name for the ones who use keyboards to create their tracks. yea there's really a difference between music now and then. there's definately a cleaner sound. but folks were making their own melodies then too! melodies that the vinyl headz extract now and use in their music.

i agree with the definitions. and the last one was funny. im not gonna clown them fruity loop catz cause i started using nothing but software and i believe without dreamstation or fruity loops or hammerhead or cool edit i wouldnt be ****. thats how i learned. maybe someday they'll move to the next level. you know?

Oh no, i didnt create that i just found it on a website and copy n paste over there!

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this thread is wackkkkkkkkkkk! Hip hop is hip hop is hip hop is hip hop. THere is no rule book and sampling is not wrong. Its a matter of taste and preferences. If u cant compromise that there are other musicains out there not makin boom bap or synth orgies then shit or get off the pot. This is a inane argument casue niether is wrong nor right. Come on now people. DOes lil jon maKe u loose sleep? Does diamond D make u want to kill someone? Whoooooo caaaarrreeeesssss!

dubmunkey wrote:did someone say presets? most presets are wank....wehther its a triton or whatever- you are meant to program your own sounds and not rely on presets....if your one of those types ignore phil, pick one up and start programming your own signature sounds...i personally wouldn't touch one iwth a barge pole but thats just me....

dont use presets...

greg

Program your Synth! Don't use Presets!