Drums - Banging kick

hey if there is anyone who listens to real hiphop like gangstarr, talib, or common, can someone help me find a banging drum kick that i can sample similar to these folks. i already have a ball busting snare, just needed a primoesque or alchemist kick to go along with it, anyone???!!!![/color]

try to find ur own good sounding snares and kicks potato
copieng styles and such wont make u good[/color]

I AIN'T TRYING TO COPY STYLES I JUST KNOW THAT IS THE TYPE OF DRUM KICK I NEED TO DO ME TYPE OF MUSIC, I ALREADY HAVE THE SNARE!!!!!!!![/color]

start diggin
haha "real hiphop" as opposed to "imitation hiphop"?[/color]

Take 2 or 3 differents punchy kicks from ol' records (funk, soul, ...). Then assign them to a pad that triggers all the kicks at the same time. Play with the filters and the enveloppe on the differents sounds in order to have the right kick.

simple snappy kick layered with a phat bass sound. Premo uses an s900. Someone a while ago on this post said a main kick he uses is from "Foosteps in the dark". What you might want to do is buy a lot of tracks he made and listen for an open kick. Recycle is good for that.

The point is it is near impossible to get the same kick as someone else (especially if it is a sampled kick which it normally is). You'd have to buy the same gear, same vinyl, like the same kind of music, and have the same engineer.

A good key is collecting different types of vinyl. You'll eventually come up with something similar enough for the average listener and a lot of your own on the way.

Where can i get this program "RECYLCE" that everyone keeps talkin bout?

You can download a demo from: www.propellerheads.se/products/recycle/main.html

my kicks are 80's (mad 80's electro drummers) cos they are purposefully produced to sound heavy.
my snares are from emo rock (weezer, built to spill...-ask camu tao about this) or more obviously funk cos these usually hit very sharply etc
and hi hats, cymbals etc are from library records and jazz.
there's this one second hand record shop in a town near me (in the uk) and i can just go in and say to the geezer i want some drums and he pulls out so much stuff... like drum battle records with gene krupa battling other mad drummers live on vinyl... those records are stupid....

why dont you try checkin the samaple FAQ site and see who uses what drums from what record - there was a rumour about 2yrs ago that primo used the same kit all the time - I think this is bull. but I do know that hes sampled funky drummer by james brown - so try there for a decent kik - then layer it up with an 808 kik that is trimmed and set to trigger at the same time.

Im gonna upload some more kiks soon - but someone alreaady shared one that they have titled primo kik in the sound module share - so if you upload anything - and believe me there has been some old tosh!! - youll get the link and get yaself a primoesque kik.

And to all those that scream BITER at this kid - dont. everyone has to start somewhere - might as well learn from the best?

try here for some juicy drum kit action to slice n dice:

http://www.phatdrumloops.com/old_site/ - not everyone has that 25quid for an old break...

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eff around with the decay, frequency and some cheap compression (convert your files to mp3's for example-really cheap compression technique) .. primo does use a lot of the same drums... so does large professor.. it is important to have a crisp sample but drums are drums... only thing that makes shit sound different is the quality of the set, the mics used to record (which most professional recordings are up to the par with i'm sure) , and the different kinds of compression used on them... trust me.. find a led zeppelin or even nirvana (dave grohl's **** amazing.. pay attention) record.. find some crisp stray hits (longer ones preferably always easier to shorten than lengthen) and the rest can be created by you.. most producers i know have maybe 10 of each hits.. and just uses that over and over.. but i guarantee you you won't be able to tell because it's been tweaked so well.. all in finding your own sound..