Acoustic drums sounds vs. Sampled Drum sounds

Which do you prefer to use?...I like acoustic cause they soubd nuch better to me and a whole frip of other things I cant really explain but i'll take a acoustic kick drum sample rather than a truncated vinyl sample anyday but thats me...Lemme knwo what you cobras are clutchin on this subject...............

In other people's music I'm indifferent; when I am producing however, I never use bits of a vinyl sample, I prefer acoustic; it just sounds better to my ears

If u want acoustic the motif is were its at! I LOVE my Motif ES6 acoustic sounds but live drums are nice was well~

i have no prefrance i use both actually, i use vinyl drum loops on some song's and acoustic drums on others i can tell a difference on both but it really depends on what i am producing at the time i guess.

one thing i noticed is that Adrums got a much loader sound opposed to vinyl, but you can get some really good drums from vinyl that already have the effects you need all you have to do is normalize the sound to get a higher sound.

I like vinyl better, in my tracks and in what I listen to.

yeah thats all i rock too. I like choppin up ol breakbeats and rearragne em better than one hit a drums

both, from multi layered synth based drums to proper matched kits...all have a place in my tunes...

greg

I thought this was acoustic vs close mic

If its closed mic I'll **** with it, acoustic.. no sir

Sampled is the way to go...

Where you gettin your "Acoustic" drum sounds from anyways... Some sample disk? That was either sampled at one point or just recorded fron a live set... And then you're just relyin on someone else's work and putting little to no effort into creating your own sound... Even if ur gettin it from a synth... most of those are sampled and compressed... The way I see it ur goin about it the lazy way and just sequencing what a real producer put hard work into...

I ain't tryin to be rude, but the way I see it... If you sample then you can compress the drums and add effects and do a lot more production to the sounds to create your own sound... I personally think that takes a lot more creativity than just sequencing sounds that were already produced by somebody else and you grabbed them off a sample disk.

I'm just tryin to understand what you mean by "Acoustic"...

well to be honest matt ive been using XXXX XXXX's matched kits recently primarily because:

a) i cant play drums
b) therefore dont own a kit, certainly not a pro one like gadds...
c) i dont have a top end studio to record it
d) its no different from sampling from a record....

im sure there are purists out there who wont sample stuff unless its them playing but for most of us that wont get the job done....if i wanna nicely recorded matched kit ill get a decent sample cd from a name like gadd or clearmountain...

greg

What's the difference between sampling and putting together a kit of one shots? Aren't you still using the work done by a producer and an engineer who mixed and mastered the sounds that you are lifting from the vinyl? It seems to me that unless you are miking up your own drumset, you really can't call anyone lazy. Unless I have the wrong idea but almost every musician I know, hates sampling.

well i like tio make music for people...not musicians or people to hung up about how it was produced....when i see a banging tune tear the roof off at a club i bet 99% of the audience aren't thinking about how it was produced...

i guess i have a choice of doing it the way everyone does it or taking a purist approach....i'd rather take the first way as it means i get results and dont have to spend cash hiring a kit, studio etc, learn how to hit the drums properly and spend that time sampling them......there are so many different combinatioons of kits, players, studio envirnoments etc that to be able to prodcue any sound you want and be original you'd have to own half the world's music gear....

horses for courses i guess

greg

How I do...

I tend to sample/edit/mangle/extreme timestretch/pitch shift any sounds I can get my hands on that are not acoustic drum sounds.

Then, I tend to make a basic loop out of these and then run that through some granular synthesis and mess with parameters for a minute or two while rendering the results out as a .wav file.

Then, I listen to the results back and look for small chunks with interesting sounds/textures to chop and use as "drums". I find that by combining these with the results of that first step I can get some interesting stuff.

I do not make hiphop anymore though.

I'm not sure if I confused anyone... I don't hire someone to, or myself, play drums... I sample from vinyl (actually usually one hits) and re-arrange the sounds therefore building my own kits from sapled vinyl drums... I then further produce the drums by adding compression and any other FX that are necessary...

I'm sorry if I came off like a d!ck before criticizing people for using sample CDs... It's just that I find it to be an easy way out... Everybody's got their preference though... For me, it's sampling breaks off of old Funk and Psychadelic Rock records.

yea homie. thats how i get down. all depends on the sound youre looking for.

sometimes ill use some extra percussion hits off my boys triton. you can color them by just taking some "air" off the same record you got your break off of and layering it with it. ill normally drop the freq filter to about 90-95 just to take that extra cleanliness. go down to 12 bit and nobody knows the half.