Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By drumdawg Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:45 am
Interested in ways people edit their samples before building an MPC program. I am using bluebox to progam but would like to find a less time consuming way to chop ect. before going to MPC program. Any software out there that is made for editing samples to be used in an MPC like enviroment (maybe has auto chop). I have been using cool edit but have found it tedious to chop up long phrases. THANKS!
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By mr_debauch Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:53 am
well me personally, I use the turntable and record into the mpc... the turntable goes into a kaoss pad 2 because of the phono preamp and sometimes i use the low pass filter to get rid of static... then I adjust the start and end points of the samples.


I dont get why anyone would go through the ten hour process of recording, chopping, editing, tweaking, eqing, and all that in a DAW just to put those sounds on the card reader and load them up on the mpc... is that done for youtube videos or something? cause really you made the track on the computer and may as well hooked your mpc up via midi to pad them out on your computer
By ghosty Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:48 am
mr_debauch wrote:well me personally, I use the turntable and record into the mpc... the turntable goes into a kaoss pad 2 because of the phono preamp and sometimes i use the low pass filter to get rid of static... then I adjust the start and end points of the samples.


I dont get why anyone would go through the ten hour process of recording, chopping, editing, tweaking, eqing, and all that in a DAW just to put those sounds on the card reader and load them up on the mpc... is that done for youtube videos or something? cause really you made the track on the computer and may as well hooked your mpc up via midi to pad them out on your computer


It is better to eq, effect, compress samples first. This prevents trying to shoot a moving target. Your now building paterns without the guess work. As for chopping in a daw, it makes more sence. You can only view the transients so close on the mpc. i strive to do what other people are not doing. The long way is always the short way in the end.I use recycle for example. The ability to zoom all the way to the 0db of the transient start and stops which eliminates the "pop". You can the dither and load only what you need to use into the ram of the mpc. I understand that some people fully produce musicon there mpcs and only eq in a daw. That fine and there is a nitch in the market for that sound. The mpc is also a very powerfull tool if used as a sequencer for paterns, that are finialized in a daw . Some like and want underground, some like and want mainstream.

Btw good point for new people reading. Understanding what kind of music you want to make and the building blocks for it will help you develop your craft to the best of your potential.
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By mr_debauch Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:19 am
ghosty wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:well me personally, I use the turntable and record into the mpc... the turntable goes into a kaoss pad 2 because of the phono preamp and sometimes i use the low pass filter to get rid of static... then I adjust the start and end points of the samples.


I dont get why anyone would go through the ten hour process of recording, chopping, editing, tweaking, eqing, and all that in a DAW just to put those sounds on the card reader and load them up on the mpc... is that done for youtube videos or something? cause really you made the track on the computer and may as well hooked your mpc up via midi to pad them out on your computer


It is better to eq, effect, compress samples first. This prevents trying to shoot a moving target. Your now building paterns without the guess work. As for chopping in a daw, it makes more sence. You can only view the transients so close on the mpc. i strive to do what other people are not doing. The long way is always the short way in the end.I use recycle for example. The ability to zoom all the way to the 0db of the transient start and stops which eliminates the "pop". You can the dither and load only what you need to use into the ram of the mpc. I understand that some people fully produce musicon there mpcs and only eq in a daw. That fine and there is a nitch in the market for that sound. The mpc is also a very powerfull tool if used as a sequencer for paterns, that are finialized in a daw . Some like and want underground, some like and want mainstream.

Btw good point for new people reading. Understanding what kind of music you want to make and the building blocks for it will help you develop your craft to the best of your potential.


yeah I make music on both the mpc and the computer.... but no way am I about to fully edit and truncate.. mix, master, and completely shape a sample on the computer... and then load it into an mpc via USB, card, or what ever so I can look cool banging those perfectly chopped and edited loops out on the mpc... you just did all the work on the DAW and dont even need the mpc. why even own it at that point. you aren't using the AD/DA converters that the series is known for, you aren't chopping with the machine which gives you that desired style... in fact you aren't getting a single characteristic the mpc series can offer by doing that... however you are gaining 10 times more work by the back and forthing of samples alone.


I like making beats that have mpc bits and DAW bits... it usually involves me making parts on the mpc and then adding stuff in the DAW. But really, when I am listening to records... that table is going into the mpc and I am cutting a second here and 2 seconds there... and the mpc is perfect for that. sure I sometimes edit those patterns and sequences later... add effects and stuff like that... you know what I mean.
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By Coz Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:00 am
The best software you can get for your mp is the JJOS.
By ghosty Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:00 am
I use multi-buss compression on kits,stabs,rims. And side chain other elements. Depending on what the track is hungry for. So , digital on the daw, into mpc as digital masterd " wav sample" then analog back into daw from mpc into console to daw track. Makes a very fat sound. Plus gives me a -4 db feel while at only -14. Lotts of headroom. Lotts of sound. The mpc is known more for swing and human touch than sampling. That sequencer is 10x more sought after than thr sampling.. you can sample with goldwave for free if you had to.
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By DPM Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:48 am
since im using the 500...i prefer chopping in Soundforge, then draggin them to the MPC.

I lay down my chops, drums, bass w/e all inside the 500....then i record each track individually to my newly acquired SP-303....where i will add FX, then transfer everything at once from the 303 to my computer. i dont think i've ever added FX, eq or anything to my sounds BEFORE putting them/transferring them to the 500/303

if you dont have something for FX like the 303, i would prefer adding FX, eq, compression...whatever AFTER you track it to your DAW....that way you'll have everything already arranged and the only thing you have left is adding your final touches (FX, eq, etc.)

if you have a 500, if you chop samples in software...i recommend Soundforge...takes maybe 5-10 minutes to chop anything...maybe not even 5 if you already have in mind what your looking for in the chops
By ghosty Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:43 pm
I do it before i use it. Kicks and hits need to be tight full and quick and tuned . Snares, claps need to be flat, and snappy. A light reverb or phase dosnt hurt either. Pre- setup is important. When you start building , a pre masterd sample tells you right now if the track can breate and has headroom. It also jelps the enginer know what direction you have in mind and what your are trying to bring forward as lighting and push back as ambient fills and accentions. Then after tracking , the second eq,ing is used to color and not creation. If making music was easy everyone would do it. The only thing that sets one producer abart from others it the way it " sounds". Most paterns are reused and most samples, and effects are as well. Its how you make it happen that makes you unique. You have to sound different. It has to sound lile thats "your" touch and thing you do. One..
By drumdawg Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:14 am
Thanks! I'll check out sound forage and gold wave. I know I can do this on the MPC but I like doing the tech stuff on my computer and the creative stuff on my MPC.
By beach_break Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:45 am
chopping is creative.

drumdawg wrote:Thanks! I'll check out sound forage and gold wave. I know I can do this on the MPC but I like doing the tech stuff on my computer and the creative stuff on my MPC.
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By ArloThePro Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:56 pm
drumdawg wrote:Thanks! I'll check out sound forage and gold wave. I know I can do this on the MPC but I like doing the tech stuff on my computer and the creative stuff on my MPC.



yeah man, goldwave is the truth! i use it with both my FL studio and chopping AND my mpc (when needed of course)..its definitely a powerful tool to use in hand with a machine like the MPC.

and if i have extra time after chopping on goldwave, i'll reload it back into mpc via usb. if not, you can always sample back in (which i have seen people do b4 smh)
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By peterpiper Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:57 am
Another way is to use the DAW as an effect unit. Turntable -> Soundcard In -> DAW -> EQ, reverb,compressor or whatever -> soundcard out -> MPC In. Dont need to record to the DAW just run it thru.
I often use this method to eq the samples in a better way than the battlemix would do (get rid of freq under 30Hz and have more control to boost important frquencies and cut others)

peace