Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By slop1977 Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:28 pm
So here it goes....I make a beat, make it sound good straight out the box, then i sync into protools,mix it down and master to the best of my knowledge. After that I bounce to disk,open it with Itunes then play it on the computer.The thing is it sounds thin like theres no balls to it,no life, but it sounded great before I bounced it.......What gives?
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By Mike Boogie Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:37 pm
Someone has a thread around here about iTunes going tits up. Try loading it in something else.
By bennisixx Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:59 pm
Play with your pan laws.this is the evil culprit that makes people think that different daws sound better than others. I don't use PT so I couldn't tell you how to do it.

make sure all plugs are capable to do offline rendering.

make sure you have some form of dithering happening if you bounce down.(as stated by aaonli)

make sure your not clipping.

make sure you bounce a stereo file not a mono one.


like I said I don't do pro tools, so how to do these things in pt, I'm not sure.
By Bee-eater Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:55 pm
This post is the same as your other. The problem isn't iTunes nor bounce to disk, if you're on a Mac, unless you have the known versions that causes problems. The audio from a DAW and iTunes (with options off) and no fader moves or fx after bouncing without compression completely cancels each other out when flipped 180 degrees out of phase.

You've been given alternatives to try. As far as the Bounce to Disk itself, poundaproblem gives you your answer. Depending on how you're bouncing, what you're bouncing may not sound the same in any other application as compared to Pro Tools. So, this may be user error since you aren't giving any details. Then you have aaonli and bennisixx also giving you detailed answers. No offense man, but it seems like you aren't even trying the suggestion all the people have given you in both threads.

As suggested by bennisixx, consider your pan laws/rules and make sure they're what you want them to be. Depending on which version of Pro Tools this may not be changeable.

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As poundaproblem said, we need to know how you're bouncing to disk. What are your settings?

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Especially of note, did you dither prior and are you bouncing at a sample rate other than your session?

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In iTunes turn off these settings as well as the EQ.

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Also, make sure the sample rate in AMS matches both the sample rate of your session and the file you bounced to disk. iTunes sometimes does NOT change this because it doesn't send a message to CoreAudio to reset your playblack device's clock. If the file and your playback device's sample rate differ, iTunes will resample up or down to match that in AMS...which will change the sound.

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See your other thread for tons of other alternatives to iTunes. Come on, son. In the end, iTunes using CoreAudio sounds the same as any other CoreAudio app. Now if you just don't like iTunes, that's understandable.
Last edited by Bee-eater on Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By Metaphonetic Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:41 pm
itunes converts to m4a... for playback anyway..


try less c0mpression in your mixes...
By Bee-eater Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:53 pm
True, but he said "open" not "import". iTunes imports to aac, which is inside the m4a container, upon import by default but it doesn't convert if you drag and drop or open (I assume he means Add to Library). It retains the original file's format, intact. What he may be doing is compressing to mp3 or something at the Bounce to Disk menu, and mp3 sounds nothing like a Pro Tools session, but it's up to him to provide that info like Poundaproblem is pointing out.