Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By zoronoise Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:46 pm
I sampled a lot of drum sounds from many rock/funk/soul/jazz/ vynils, and i'm editing them to built a personal drumkit.
I heard that a good process to have a dope and raw snare is to render it at 8 bit. Is this true?
Sorry for my bad english ;)
By zoronoise Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:05 pm
Thanks Floating, i'm trying for all the afternoon and i hear that with 8 bit thre's a lot of noise. This noise there's not if I use also a lower sample rate.
Do anybody use this tehnique?
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By AntonPD Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:13 pm
im not really knowledgeable about it, but in case of noise when going to a different digital format, look up 'dithering' if you dont know what it is :)
By stinktank Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:43 pm
If you sampled them from vinyl, they should be "dope and raw" in the first place. I never really messed with 8 bit, 12 bit, sure.
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By nogginj Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:28 pm
My opinion is that resampling/converting bit rates in the MPC is a huge waste of time.

It's generally not the 'low bit rate' itself that people tend to like, it's more the particular A/D converters of older gear combined with the low rate.

So I'd say keep it at the standard bitrate, and instead tweak the sound going into the sampler. Or if you really like the sound (and the waiting) of the MPC conversion, then feel free to convert to 8 bit.
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By happyhour Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:45 am
nogginj wrote:My opinion is that resampling/converting bit rates in the MPC is a huge waste of time.

It's generally not the 'low bit rate' itself that people tend to like, it's more the particular A/D converters of older gear combined with the low rate.

So I'd say keep it at the standard bitrate, and instead tweak the sound going into the sampler. Or if you really like the sound (and the waiting) of the MPC conversion, then feel free to convert to 8 bit.


I imagine Damu resamples everything that goes into his 2000 since he's still using floppy and 2mb memory. Is that man patient or what? And that low res sound is his staple.
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By thx Thu Jan 27, 2011 10:15 am
happyhour wrote:I imagine Damu resamples everything that goes into his 2000 since he's still using floppy and 2mb memory. Is that man patient or what? And that low res sound is his staple.


i don't think the 2000 classic can resample at lower bitrates
(correct me if i'm wrong)
so i believe he's really patient
managing all those floppies it's hard...
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By happyhour Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:42 pm
thx wrote:
happyhour wrote:I imagine Damu resamples everything that goes into his 2000 since he's still using floppy and 2mb memory. Is that man patient or what? And that low res sound is his staple.


i don't think the 2000 classic can resample at lower bitrates
(correct me if i'm wrong)
so i believe he's really patient
managing all those floppies it's hard...



I take it you mean natively sample at lower bit rates? I don't know the 2000 either, but isn't that what I just said? haha
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By cyrus Fri Jan 28, 2011 6:00 am
i tend to sample the sound i want to begin with. that is, ill dig, and dig, and dig, and eventually ill come accross snares, kicks, loops, etc. that sound good as is.....those are what i use for my kits. with very little tweaking.

now of course, there is always the part of picking the right sounds to fit with the beat, etc. and sometimes that warrents some tweaking, but for the most part, for me anyways, its more about choice of sample then it is "secret techniques of bit conversion, comp, eq, etc."(not saying i dont use bit conv, comp, eq, just saying i dont have some secret technique)


the other option is as you mentioned, is to sample something and tweak it..........but generally speaking, if it aint grimey, hard, snappy, ill, or whatever to begin with, it might never be.

there lots of ways to get those gritty drums, its up to you. and it depends on your definition of gritty, grimey, ill or whatever.

in the end, its what sounds good to you and whatever it takes to get there.........but for me, sample choice is big part of it.

as far as tweaking techniques...i tend to find that layering,filtering, and eq gets me the results i desire more than converting bit rates. but thats what my ears tell me.

i definately like damu sound. there was a dude in the "your music" forum that had some ill beats taht sounded like damu, he might be a good person to ask about techinque.... this dude viewtopic.php?f=7&t=134438
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By Fung45 Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:12 pm
cyrus wrote:i tend to sample the sound i want to begin with. that is, ill dig, and dig, and dig, and eventually ill come accross snares, kicks, loops, etc. that sound good as is.....those are what i use for my kits. with very little tweaking.

cosign
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By Jfalconcrest Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:35 am
Fung45 wrote:
cyrus wrote:i tend to sample the sound i want to begin with. that is, ill dig, and dig, and dig, and eventually ill come accross snares, kicks, loops, etc. that sound good as is.....those are what i use for my kits. with very little tweaking.

cosign



What if the sound you want doesn't exist yet?