Not everyone starts with a perfectly cut loop of some multiple of one whole bar. Not everyone wants to de/reconstruct said loop. Why is it that slicing into equal segments or slicing on the transients are the only options? Why is it that they all seem to think that nobody would ever want the same segment of audio to be in two or more slices?
Nym wrote:hell, let me hit a button in realtime to lay them down roughly and then i'll fine tune them 1 at a time....
mp3 wrote:I'm sitting here reading the specs on the Elektron Octatrack, and its like "Damn, not another slicer..." I mean what do you do when you have a sample like this:
1xxx2xxx3xxx4xxx
and you want make the following samples:
1xxx2
x2xxx3x
xx3xx
4xx
Come on developers, get out that box... Not everyone starts with a perfectly cut loop of some multiple of one whole bar. Not everyone wants to de/reconstruct said loop. Why is it that slicing into equal segments or slicing on the transients are the only options? Why is it that they all seem to think that nobody would ever want the same segment of audio to be in two or more slices?
Seriously...
Nym wrote:Not everyone starts with a perfectly cut loop of some multiple of one whole bar. Not everyone wants to de/reconstruct said loop. Why is it that slicing into equal segments or slicing on the transients are the only options? Why is it that they all seem to think that nobody would ever want the same segment of audio to be in two or more slices?
+100000000
just give me a waveform and some vertical bars
hell, let me hit a button in realtime to lay them down roughly and then i'll fine tune them 1 at a time....
Funkydrops wrote:
mmm, what about the mark button on the BOSS/ROLAND SP-series?
I mean, just saying...
MCL wrote:Octartack allows slicing to a grid, to transients , and to user definable points at any point in the loop.
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Its Elektrons consistent ability of 'out the box' thinking and implementation that makes me like their products so much.
Nym wrote:+100000000
just give me a waveform and some vertical bars
hell, let me hit a button in realtime to lay them down roughly and then i'll fine tune them 1 at a time....
I was so happy when I found that vemberaudio shortcircuit sampler VST cause it was the only one that allowed to have a long sample, set slice points manually, change then into individual zones but left the ability to change the start and/or endpoint. So sad that cleas (the programmer) didnt continue developing it 
mp3 wrote:MCL wrote:Octartack allows slicing to a grid, to transients , and to user definable points at any point in the loop.
...
Its Elektrons consistent ability of 'out the box' thinking and implementation that makes me like their products so much.
I know and that's what makes their insistence on slicing so disappointing. Because in essence, slicing is nothing more than chopping with self-imposed restrictions. The biggest restriction being that one slice must begin where the previous one ends. Everything else that (and any other) machine does is built on top of how you manipulate samples at the base level. And that's why its so crucial...
Like I just can't for the life of me understand why anything that calls itself a sampler cannot freely address several different regions of any sample without any self-imposed limitations. And I cannot understand why developers avoid that paradigm like the plague... As if conceptual ease of use is gonna sell more units. NO! The hardcore samplists are the only ones still buying hardware! The hardcore samplists are the only ones still SAMPLING!!!
Its 2011. The ASR-10 is almost 20 years old FFS...Nym wrote:+100000000
just give me a waveform and some vertical bars
hell, let me hit a button in realtime to lay them down roughly and then i'll fine tune them 1 at a time....
Man I'd kill for that... In the meantime, there's always spinning the record back and sampling snippets... LOL... 2011...
