Problems with mach correct tempo

Hello
Do you know how the MPC can (no matter what model) you can check the tempo of a sample?

I ask because I can not constantly drum into beat, so maybe as I can effectively do that was not already hear the drums of vinyl?
I had a plan, in order to check the beat rate and change the tempo of drum loops on the beat-rate or maybe such a other solution?

Well maybe it presents it differently:
I have got sampel, which wants to reduce the speed by Time Scretch, and later I would check his pace (something like in some programs, Tap Tempo marker), I could overdub drums to beat, just like all the time so I'm playing (not checking rate) overdub drums. This is just not fit together and drums 'covers' the whole beat.
And yet I question whether, if the dubbing drums in the same pattern as that of vinyl, but other samples, such as
kick kick snare drum (original)
kick snare drum snare drum (appended)
Does such a case it will not be tallied?

And do you know maybe some books / PDF 's with patternami drums, so to bend?


Thanks in advance, Regards
And sorry for my language mistakes,cuz i'm from Poland.

Thats a lot of questions, but I do think I know what you mean.
First you have to regonise diferent things about mpc, and how they work. MPC can play samples from hitting pad, like drumming (which you do, i am guessing?), MPC also plays samples as loops (say you sample 1 bar drum break) and loops sample.
Now let me introduce you to sequencer. MPC is sequencer which records things like what pads you drummed when you record. to do both at same time you want BPM of loop? MPC is not 100% accurate with sample BPM. To find BPM of loop sample you must make sequence with that loop sample starting at 1:1:00 on a track. the sequence length has to match sample loop. So if sample is 1 bar make 1 bar sequence and hit play. Change BPM till you get no gap and no overlap of sample so it is a perfect loop and this is the samples BPM. Now make patched phrase of sample and it will play in time to your MPCs BPM. you need to really tell us wht MPC

Thanks man.
So I have MPC 4000.
I know how MPC works(many things I will teach later),but I still can't match tempo.
You said really weird thing for me cuz I don't know about that.
But I mean something another.
I have one sample and percussion loop.
I have recorded sequence with beat/backghround from wax.
And I can't overdub my own percussion to that beat cuz that don't sounds good-you know about what i mean?

And on another forum somebody said that I can hit TAP TEMPO button,but I don't know it's working?
And can anybody write name of books/PDF's with drum patterns and with this pattern of drums(should new percussion be the same as original) ?

Thanks again,any solutions?

try and ask one question. do that and it will help otherwise

Drop the sample in Recycle and it will show you the correct tempo. That's the easiest solution in my opinion.

Yes,I know that in softwre I can check tempo,but it takes a lot of time(cuz I have Windowes 7 and I can't sync MPC to PC by aksys )and If I use Time Scretch I must save on pendrive->PC.
So my questions:(if you blikprock or anybody know any answer just write number of question and add answer to this number)
1.How I can check tempo in MPC 4000?
2.How I can overdub drums in original sample that original drums will be muted or can't hear?
3.When I want overdub drums to original sample,I must have the same pattern of percussion like in original sample?
4.Can anybody add link to PDF's or books with drum patterns(only for excercises?)

Regards,Thanks in advance

So can anybody help me?

Regards

answer to question 1 is in my previous post.
answer to question 2 is make a sequence and then mute original drums
answer to question 3 is WTF have you not listened to modern music. Who told you this is what you have to do???? make your own RTFM
answer to question 4 OMG ya trollin right??? notice the advertising on this website at all. Open ya eyes.

here is a drum pattern

BD: 1000100010001000
SD: 0000100000001000
HH: 0010001000100010

or this is more hip hop

BD: 1010000010100000
SD: 0000100000001000
HH: 1010101010101010

but yea, a little confused why you are asking, just drum them in yourself.

Yo bro theres a couple options to do what you're trying to accomplish.

the easiest one in my opinion is to get a loop of the sample. your loop can even be as small as one beat just make sure it loops perfectly. hopefully you know about beats and measures/bars, if google it and read up its very simple. so once you get your perfect loop you go to parameters off of the trim sceen in the mpc. there should be a bpm readout and a number of beats (im using the 2000xl so it might be slightly different). set the number of beats to however long your loop is. this will give you a readout of the bpm. you can also adjust the pitch on the same screen and it will give you the tempo according to your newly pitched sample. set your bpm on the sequence sceen to that number. from here you can chop the sample and play what you have in mind or you can just use the straight loop.

the drums in the song your sampling shouldnt be a problem after youve recorded your own after, inless they were already very dominant in the sample. sometimes tho, when using a straight loop ive noticed even if you loop it correctly, the drums that you overdub on top wont 'fit in' with the sample. that happens because sometimes the musicians from the record played off time, and all you have to do to fix that is chop it up and replay it in time. usually in quarter notes or eighth notes, or wherever the drums hit.

another way that is a little less accurate is to use the tap tempo, which im sure you already know how that works. but when using this make sure you set the tap tempo taps to 4 or the highest number it goes to (its somewhere from shift n one of the numbers im not sure which one cant remember). that way you get a more precise ratio which gives you a closer estimation of the bpm.

you could also just chop the sample up..set the tempo..play your slices and then pitch them down or up depending on what sounds like it fits the best then set all samples to that pitch.

all these ways have their use it just depends on the type of sample you encounter and what tool you need to use to accomplish what your goin for.

oh and time stretch...forgot bout that, make sure you have your loop perfect first and remember the tempo readout from whatever pitch you want it. then go to bpm or some shit from the time stretch screen and type that bpm in the current tempo and then make the new tempo whatever you want. from there you can chop or loop but read what i said about the straight looped drums in the previous post cuz they can mess you up.

hope OPs head does not explode