Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Borat Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:35 am
I didn't know where to post this so sorry if it's not in the right section.

So most of the time my drums are not really good. I sample all my drums from vinyl, and then try to layer,pitch, play with the decay, EQ, compress... but they are still not good(I'm still a beginner). So I thought of a little game to try to understand how to have good drums and see what good beatmakers can do with the samples I found.

I uploaded a kit of drums consisting of 12 kicks, 16 snares and 8 hi hats that I sampled straight from vinyl with my MPC 2000. There is no effects, it's just the samples as they are. So if people are interested, I'd like to see what you can do with those drums and see if you can make a great drum kit with it.

You can process them with everything you want(VST's, compressors, EQ, resampling, layering...) as long as you only use the samples that are in this kit. Then, post your kits here, and tell us what equipment you did use!

I think it can be pretty funny and interesting... Hope people will be interested by this :D

Here are the drums: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PBM213KK
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By elevated Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:38 pm
I like this game,, and these sounds are almost ready to go for classic hip-hop sound. What kind of sound are u trying to do?
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By nogginj Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:30 pm
Cool idea.
I checked these out and mostly they are pretty good. I will say though that you need to TRIM. Damn there is a lot of silence in these.

Your first, most important edit should be trimming all the silence off the beginning so that the sound starts as soon as you hit the pad.
I would also remove the silence at the end, but this is less important and harder to do...you really need to listen to make sure it's silent not just fading out.
Also, to save memory, don't be afraid to use the DISCARD function once you've trimmed out unwanted silence.

These kinds of sounds are pretty good, and if you just trim them up you will be able to do a lot with them. The few exceptions are the hi-hats...there's only really one good open hat, the rest sound very dull and noisy, and they don't ring out as long as they sound like they should...they sound abruptly cut off.
You can probably get by eqing individual tracks later or even the full beat...just mix these in at the appropriate levels.
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By k_roc Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:52 pm
nogginj wrote:Your first, most important edit should be trimming all the silence off the beginning so that the sound starts as soon as you hit the pad.


Sometimes I leave a very minute amount of silence before the sample to change the swing of the sequence. You can get more unique rhythms this way. It's also kind of helpful if you want to get some of that awkward swing that the hipster kids are feeling these days.
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By nogginj Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:04 pm
k_roc wrote:Sometimes I leave a very minute amount of silence before the sample to change the swing of the sequence. You can get more unique rhythms this way....

Amen.
It's important to remember there are no 'rules', and everybody has their own style.
Personally, I would still remove the silence and just program the lateness myself, because i want to know exactly what is happening.

Still, in this particular instance, the silence at the beginning of the sample is a bit much, and your samples would improve a lot if you just trimmed them. Soundwise they are pretty good. Good choices.
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By Borat Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:36 am
Cool to see that people are interested!
I left silence intentionally, so everybody can adjust the decay as they like.
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By DJ Plan A Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:20 pm
Cool. I'm gonna check it out. What are the rules of the game? Drums only? These drums only? For the purposes of this game are we allowed to incorporate other drums and/or other sounds?
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By Borat Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:35 am
DJ Plan A wrote:Cool. I'm gonna check it out. What are the rules of the game? Drums only? These drums only? For the purposes of this game are we allowed to incorporate other drums and/or other sounds?


Yes, you can only use those drums, no external sounds.

Sounds like he is just trying to get us to do all the work for him!


Ha ha no, it's just to see what producers with experience can do with that
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By thx Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:31 am
k_roc wrote:
nogginj wrote:Your first, most important edit should be trimming all the silence off the beginning so that the sound starts as soon as you hit the pad.


Sometimes I leave a very minute amount of silence before the sample to change the swing of the sequence. You can get more unique rhythms this way. It's also kind of helpful if you want to get some of that awkward swing that the hipster kids are feeling these days.


true,
silence in the start of a sample adds an unpredictable swing at various tempos
i do keep silence in some sounds and do trim other sounds
if i don't want the swing i trim it all right at the start
i haven't listened to the sound but surely i'll do it today
thanks again
By stinktank Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:57 am
Borat wrote:I left silence intentionally, so everybody can adjust the decay as they like.


I don't get it, you cut the original sound abruptly short (inexplicably), and add digital silence? Sorry, but that seems totally pointless to me. Adjusting the original decay makes for natural sounding drums, not playing around with silence. Besides, when the sound stops playing you get that kind of silence anyway-- why add it?