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By binger0 Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:31 pm
What is the role of a Record Producer?

The main job of the Record Producer, is to produce the record or CD. There are a number of different responsibilities within this job classification, some creative and others business-oriented.

A Producer helps the artist select tunes to be recorded. Once the artist has rehearsed and is ready to record, the Producer will locate a suitable recording studio in which to record and arrange for studio time. The Producer will select an engineer, hire an arranger, and contact a contractor who will secure background musicians and vocalists for the job.

The Producer or Production Assistant will make sure that all those hired arrive at the studio on time. The Producer is responsible for ensuring that those who have been hired are paid promptly.

During the recording session, the Producer will work closely with the engineer. The Producer advises the engineer of any specific sounds or feelings he or she is trying to create. It is the Producer's role to supervise the entire recording session, making decisions about when to do a take over, what to use, etc.

The Producer usually adds a personal touch to the recording. This is sometimes a special sound effect or the way a tune is began or ended. Often it is a blend of instruments or vocal harmony. It is not unusual for a Producer to place his or her trademark on records.

It is up to the producer to keep the recording within the budget agreed upon. Going over budget often costs the label or artist thousands of dollars extra.

Does the Producer have a role in mixing the record?

After the recording is made, the Producer is in charge of "mixing" it to perfection. Although the Producer does not always perform this function personally, (special engineers or mixers are often hired), he or she always supervises this function. Success or failure in the mixing process can be what makes or breaks a record.

After the recording session is over, the producer usually goes home and waits for several days or even weeks before mixing down to a 2 track stereo master. This waiting period enables the producer to take a fresh and more objective view of the project.

If the tunes recorded are for a CD, the Producer will help to choose the order in which they are placed. He or she will also select the single from the CD.

What is the purpose of Mixing?

In mixing, each track is equalized. Echo, delays or other special effects may be added and decisions may be made to re-record certain parts of a song. The producer must decide where to place each track in the stereo spectrum. A track may be heard in the left or right speaker alone, it may be centered , (which makes is equally audible on both speakers) or it may be positioned slightly to the left or right. The way the tracks are placed will influence the total sound. The producer will listen to the effects of each division and decide when and how the desired effect is achieved.

Does the Producer's role extend beyond the recording phase?

The Producer is involved with all aspects of the record. When the recording and mixing have been completed, the Producer's job does not end. Though the creative process is almost over, the Record Producer must attend to many of the business aspects of producing.

The Producer is responsible for clearing mechanical licenses, making sure that all copyrights are checked, and providing completed consent forms and releases from artists, engineers, photographers, etc., who worked on the project (if they are to receive credit on the record). The Producer must also submit receipts and paid bills to the record company.

Who employs a Record Producer?

The Record Producer may work on staff for a label or be an independent Producer, freelancing his or her talents. The Producer on staff at a record company is responsible to the A&R department head. The Producer who freelances may be responsible directly to the label or to the artist. This depends on the arrangement made beforehand.

How is the Producer compensated?

Record Producers on staff at a record company may earn a salary plus royalties on records they produce. Producers who freelance as independents are paid a fee for their services by either the label or the artist. In addition, they are always paid royalties on works they produce. The amount of royalties differ from Producer to Producer. Those with past success can negotiate for larger royalty payments. This money if often advanced to the Producer.

What qualifications are important in selecting a Producer?

The most important qualification for a Record Producer is the ability to pick hit tunes. Every artist wants a hit song. Producers must have a good musical "ear" an the ability to know what will sound good. He or she must be able to hear raw talent and have the ability to foresee how it will sound if properly arranged and recorded.

Producers with musical training and experience in the studio are most effective.

Basic Skills to Look For in a Producer:

1. Business Skills - The ability to pick hits, coordinate sessions, complete paperwork, negotiate good vendor deals, and work within a budget. Attention to details - booking time, hiring musicians, arrangers, engineers, etc.

2. Musical Skills - Having the ability to hear what is in tune or out of tune. Writing charts and arrangements in the studio and combining sounds in an unusual and pleasing way.

3. Psychological Skills - Knowing how to handle talent. Exercising judgment - knowing when to take a beak, quit or go on. Knowing how to get the best performance out of the artists, singers and musicians. Ability to work long hours under stress. Projecting energy and enthusiasm, whatever one's true feelings.

4. Technical Skills - Knowledge of multi-track recordings and the consol to get the maximum desirable effects. Willingness to experiment with sounds, microphones, and outboard gear until the best sound is achieved. Ability to hear what sounds good in the mix in order to highlight the most important parts of a performance.

What is mastering?

After the mix is completed, a master must be prepared in a special studio to prepare for manufacturing on disc, CD or tape. It is wise for the producer to attend the mastering. After the mastering is done, the producer gets a sample pressing for listening purposes. The producer will listen carefully for balances, hisses, pops, or other distortions.

What role does the producer play beyond mastering?

Most producers will remain involved in such matters as the cover, liner notes, credits and back-cover graphics. Producers with contacts in the promotion area, especially with radio stations, will often assist in the promotion of the record.

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To ensure the protection of your creative works, the rights of others and operation within compliance to Federal laws, an understanding of Intellectual Property and Copyright is vital.
Intellectual Property:
Copyright law is part of a larger body of law called intellectual property law or IP law.

Copyright is a legal mechanism that protects the rights of the individual creators and owners of intellectual properties—artists, writers, photographers, composers—and their original works from unauthorized and uncompensated appropriation. In other words, copyright law protects the creators of intellectual properties by controlling the unauthorized "copying" and distribution of their works.

The essence of the Copyright Law of the United States (Section 102(a)) is:

Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title (Title 17), in the original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

Under U.S. copyright law, "authorship" is further defined as including the IP output or product of the following "expressive" activities:

works of literature
musical works, and all related publishable words
dramatic works, and all related publishable words
choreographic works, including pantomimes, and their publishable descriptions
works of art, including pictorial, graphic, and photographic
works of sculpture
motion pictures and television programs and/or segments
audiovisual works
sound recordings
architectural works
Copyright law does not protect ideas, procedures, processes, systems, methods of operation, concepts, principles, or discoveries, regardless of how these excluded expressions are described or illustrated.

Protection under copyright law does include compilations and derivative works, so long as the use of such selections of the copyrighted work of others is lawful. Also, the copyright protection in the case of compilations and derivative works extends only to any and all new material, but not to those components of the compilation or derivative work already copyrighted by their original authors. Note that in copyright law, the term author is used to denote any creator of an original work, regardless of the form of the work.

Copyright v. Author-Right
While British and American copyright law has become an important part of global trade, it is not the only copyright tradition. Many countries have modeled their intellectual property laws on the French Napoleonic legal system, which bases the protection of intellectual property on author-right. In the late twentieth century and early twenty-first century, the inherent conflicts between the copyright legal tradition and the author-right legal tradition have presented a major challenge in the negotiation of international trade agreements. Here are the basic differences between the two approaches:

Laws and treaties based upon copyright legal tradition, as exemplified by the laws in America and Britain, view the existence and ownership of intellectual creations as basically another form of "property." As property, the title (ownership) of intellectual property can be bought and sold, licensed, transferred, inherited, etc., quite similar to buying, selling, or otherwise holding or transferring ownership in "real" property such as land, buildings, cars, etc. More specifically, under the copyright approach it is the "right to copy" that is vested with the value of the property once the property has been created (authored).
Laws and treaties based upon author-right view the value of the property being vested in the initial authorship and not the copying or dissemination per se. Under author-right systems this value of the creative product can never be separated from the original author. Intellectual output can thus never be bought, sold, or transferred, but only loaned for specific usage and for limited time periods, by the author or the author's heirs, to others (also called "licensing").


Note: Contains information provided by Career Opportunities in The Music Industry, Fourth Edition; by Shelly Field and The Music Business, 3rd Edition; by Dick Weissman.
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By Blue Haze Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:48 am
binger0 wrote:What is the role of a Record Producer?

The main job of the Record Producer, is to produce the record or CD. There are a number of different responsibilities within this job classification, some creative and others business-oriented.

A Producer helps the artist select tunes to be recorded. Once the artist has rehearsed and is ready to record, the Producer will locate a suitable recording studio in which to record and arrange for studio time. The Producer will select an engineer, hire an arranger, and contact a contractor who will secure background musicians and vocalists for the job.

The Producer or Production Assistant will make sure that all those hired arrive at the studio on time. The Producer is responsible for ensuring that those who have been hired are paid promptly.

During the recording session, the Producer will work closely with the engineer. The Producer advises the engineer of any specific sounds or feelings he or she is trying to create. It is the Producer's role to supervise the entire recording session, making decisions about when to do a take over, what to use, etc.

The Producer usually adds a personal touch to the recording. This is sometimes a special sound effect or the way a tune is began or ended. Often it is a blend of instruments or vocal harmony. It is not unusual for a Producer to place his or her trademark on records.

It is up to the producer to keep the recording within the budget agreed upon. Going over budget often costs the label or artist thousands of dollars extra.

Does the Producer have a role in mixing the record?

After the recording is made, the Producer is in charge of "mixing" it to perfection. Although the Producer does not always perform this function personally, (special engineers or mixers are often hired), he or she always supervises this function. Success or failure in the mixing process can be what makes or breaks a record.

After the recording session is over, the producer usually goes home and waits for several days or even weeks before mixing down to a 2 track stereo master. This waiting period enables the producer to take a fresh and more objective view of the project.

If the tunes recorded are for a CD, the Producer will help to choose the order in which they are placed. He or she will also select the single from the CD.

What is the purpose of Mixing?

In mixing, each track is equalized. Echo, delays or other special effects may be added and decisions may be made to re-record certain parts of a song. The producer must decide where to place each track in the stereo spectrum. A track may be heard in the left or right speaker alone, it may be centered , (which makes is equally audible on both speakers) or it may be positioned slightly to the left or right. The way the tracks are placed will influence the total sound. The producer will listen to the effects of each division and decide when and how the desired effect is achieved.

Does the Producer's role extend beyond the recording phase?

The Producer is involved with all aspects of the record. When the recording and mixing have been completed, the Producer's job does not end. Though the creative process is almost over, the Record Producer must attend to many of the business aspects of producing.

The Producer is responsible for clearing mechanical licenses, making sure that all copyrights are checked, and providing completed consent forms and releases from artists, engineers, photographers, etc., who worked on the project (if they are to receive credit on the record). The Producer must also submit receipts and paid bills to the record company.

Who employs a Record Producer?

The Record Producer may work on staff for a label or be an independent Producer, freelancing his or her talents. The Producer on staff at a record company is responsible to the A&R department head. The Producer who freelances may be responsible directly to the label or to the artist. This depends on the arrangement made beforehand.

How is the Producer compensated?

Record Producers on staff at a record company may earn a salary plus royalties on records they produce. Producers who freelance as independents are paid a fee for their services by either the label or the artist. In addition, they are always paid royalties on works they produce. The amount of royalties differ from Producer to Producer. Those with past success can negotiate for larger royalty payments. This money if often advanced to the Producer.

What qualifications are important in selecting a Producer?

The most important qualification for a Record Producer is the ability to pick hit tunes. Every artist wants a hit song. Producers must have a good musical "ear" an the ability to know what will sound good. He or she must be able to hear raw talent and have the ability to foresee how it will sound if properly arranged and recorded.

Producers with musical training and experience in the studio are most effective.

Basic Skills to Look For in a Producer:

1. Business Skills - The ability to pick hits, coordinate sessions, complete paperwork, negotiate good vendor deals, and work within a budget. Attention to details - booking time, hiring musicians, arrangers, engineers, etc.

2. Musical Skills - Having the ability to hear what is in tune or out of tune. Writing charts and arrangements in the studio and combining sounds in an unusual and pleasing way.

3. Psychological Skills - Knowing how to handle talent. Exercising judgment - knowing when to take a beak, quit or go on. Knowing how to get the best performance out of the artists, singers and musicians. Ability to work long hours under stress. Projecting energy and enthusiasm, whatever one's true feelings.

4. Technical Skills - Knowledge of multi-track recordings and the consol to get the maximum desirable effects. Willingness to experiment with sounds, microphones, and outboard gear until the best sound is achieved. Ability to hear what sounds good in the mix in order to highlight the most important parts of a performance.

What is mastering?

After the mix is completed, a master must be prepared in a special studio to prepare for manufacturing on disc, CD or tape. It is wise for the producer to attend the mastering. After the mastering is done, the producer gets a sample pressing for listening purposes. The producer will listen carefully for balances, hisses, pops, or other distortions.

What role does the producer play beyond mastering?

Most producers will remain involved in such matters as the cover, liner notes, credits and back-cover graphics. Producers with contacts in the promotion area, especially with radio stations, will often assist in the promotion of the record.

________________________________________________________________

To ensure the protection of your creative works, the rights of others and operation within compliance to Federal laws, an understanding of Intellectual Property and Copyright is vital.
Intellectual Property:
Copyright law is part of a larger body of law called intellectual property law or IP law.

Copyright is a legal mechanism that protects the rights of the individual creators and owners of intellectual properties—artists, writers, photographers, composers—and their original works from unauthorized and uncompensated appropriation. In other words, copyright law protects the creators of intellectual properties by controlling the unauthorized "copying" and distribution of their works.

The essence of the Copyright Law of the United States (Section 102(a)) is:

Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title (Title 17), in the original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device.

Under U.S. copyright law, "authorship" is further defined as including the IP output or product of the following "expressive" activities:

works of literature
musical works, and all related publishable words
dramatic works, and all related publishable words
choreographic works, including pantomimes, and their publishable descriptions
works of art, including pictorial, graphic, and photographic
works of sculpture
motion pictures and television programs and/or segments
audiovisual works
sound recordings
architectural works
Copyright law does not protect ideas, procedures, processes, systems, methods of operation, concepts, principles, or discoveries, regardless of how these excluded expressions are described or illustrated.

Protection under copyright law does include compilations and derivative works, so long as the use of such selections of the copyrighted work of others is lawful. Also, the copyright protection in the case of compilations and derivative works extends only to any and all new material, but not to those components of the compilation or derivative work already copyrighted by their original authors. Note that in copyright law, the term author is used to denote any creator of an original work, regardless of the form of the work.

Copyright v. Author-Right
While British and American copyright law has become an important part of global trade, it is not the only copyright tradition. Many countries have modeled their intellectual property laws on the French Napoleonic legal system, which bases the protection of intellectual property on author-right. In the late twentieth century and early twenty-first century, the inherent conflicts between the copyright legal tradition and the author-right legal tradition have presented a major challenge in the negotiation of international trade agreements. Here are the basic differences between the two approaches:

Laws and treaties based upon copyright legal tradition, as exemplified by the laws in America and Britain, view the existence and ownership of intellectual creations as basically another form of "property." As property, the title (ownership) of intellectual property can be bought and sold, licensed, transferred, inherited, etc., quite similar to buying, selling, or otherwise holding or transferring ownership in "real" property such as land, buildings, cars, etc. More specifically, under the copyright approach it is the "right to copy" that is vested with the value of the property once the property has been created (authored).
Laws and treaties based upon author-right view the value of the property being vested in the initial authorship and not the copying or dissemination per se. Under author-right systems this value of the creative product can never be separated from the original author. Intellectual output can thus never be bought, sold, or transferred, but only loaned for specific usage and for limited time periods, by the author or the author's heirs, to others (also called "licensing").


Note: Contains information provided by Career Opportunities in The Music Industry, Fourth Edition; by Shelly Field and The Music Business, 3rd Edition; by richard Weissman.


Binger0 you really come to the table with knowledge of the techniques and business I respect that. Bring some knowledge of the love of the art too.
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By binger0 Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:56 am
blue i do have knowledge of the art and culture. I just happen to think that certain things require not that much effort, but recieve to much accolades and praise. i have no issuse's with loopin, or diddy or madlib, i just feel that sometimes they get a lot of praise for essentially using someone elses music. i dont want this to become an argument though homie. But dont say that i dont love or respect the art. loopin and cuttin is all the same thing esseintally its not 2 diff styles, but when u straight jack a loop and add drums, thats a little tired, things have gotten alot more complex and more tech have been discovered, to do that half ass stuff. but anyways this ish started on looping and what not, to each his on. im not hating on any of these cats i just feel sometimes they get alot of praise for something that takes 5 mins to do
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By Blue Haze Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:27 am
binger0 wrote:blue i do have knowledge of the art and culture. I just happen to think that certain things require not that much effort, but recieve to much accolades and praise. i have no issuse's with loopin, or diddy or madlib, i just feel that sometimes they get a lot of praise for essentially using someone elses music. i dont want this to become an argument though homie. But dont say that i dont love or respect the art. loopin and cuttin is all the same thing esseintally its not 2 diff styles, but when u straight jack a loop and add drums, thats a little tired, things have gotten alot more complex and more tech have been discovered, to do that half **** stuff. but anyways this ish started on looping and what not, to each his on. im not hating on any of these cats i just feel sometimes they get alot of praise for something that takes 5 mins to do


I know you do binger have the knowledge. what I`m saying is sharing how you found that break that you sure is the shit to move the crowd. Maybe in a sense why would a replay or rephrasing of "The Message" would even sound so hot in a club or in a rap. You are one of the cats on this board who knows the history and the business of hip hop on this board. however people don`t say much of even the purpose of looping? I feel that people were losing the reasoning of why did the Herc search for a 5 sec break of someone elses music. The reasoning why the people go out to buy a hip hop/r&b/rock record for that matter that was essential the same record breaks they heard a million times on the radio, or was replayed with new intruments because they loved that cool groove. I understand your reasoning because if everyone does the same shit is gets boring real fast. However the ear of the man to find that break and groove of the people is skill. A regular joe blow can have a million records and still wouldn`t find that break, groove, or spot to construct a song. The cool thing is to hear the same song everyone else has heard and find the break that they wouldn`t have came with. Anyway I prefer chopping up this so another couldn`t bite what I founded. No beef binger I agree that Puff isn`t the best compare to Pete, Primo, Marl and so on but, he did ( mean Nyshim, D-Dot, Easy Mo Bee, and others under Puff) add some classics to the hip hop sound library to a point. When I said about knowledge I meant share tips on the process of chopping, looping, arranging, mixing and others I learned from ya when I first came to this board. How to find that hot break? Where is the record, flip it, what will strike a cord with the audience? Tips binger. Peace out and keep adding the knowledge of the art.
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By binger0 Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:30 pm
its all bout ears and taste, and ur resources. There is no key to finding hot breaks or new untapped loops, but u gotta just keep on the grind. I have actually gotten lazy and havent dug in a while but i got more then enough to work with at the moment. loopin is not so bad, but like when elmac was saying takin 3 loops, bass, drums, adn a lead, and layin them on top of eachover, thats a little lazy. Programs like acid make u think that making music is layering loops on top of each over. It is, but its really the no brainer shi*. Now if u take a loop and u cut ur durms up and have other chops and loops all eqed and processed with effects and all that jazz, then u can make looping a very cool tech to incoperate with ur other techs. Im actually a big fan of madlib, and he is a very talented producer. He incorperates a bunch of diff techs into his ish. Like cuttin breaks a main loop with chops on it, filtered basses, live instrumentation, and etc. Most of my comments in that other thread were aimed at the diddy style or the acid/recycle nonsense. Just i think to make music its a lil more then that. Then to use contruction kits or lay down some drums over a full loop and call it a day.
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By BIG K Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:44 pm
thanks for the help 8)
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By kybeats Mon Sep 06, 2004 1:41 am
I love to read articles but that was tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long....Is there an audio clip or something ???
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By binger0 Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:31 am
nah man u gotta do ur homework.
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By kybeats Mon Sep 06, 2004 2:53 am
I read the producer part...I think that part is a bit dated....Now a days alot of producers are being treated like simple beat makers.....I've read many articles lately about certain producers not hearing their finished tracks until the actual albums were released ???

With Technology the way it is..their roles are less and less.

I skimmedthrough the copyright part because that part is very familiar.... :wink:
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By binger0 Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:21 am
nah the good ones are still all invovled, like dre and primo

By mwalker Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:24 pm
yo binger,

we MUST get together and do a few tracks. i will rent a hotel room so that we can meet and make some tracks. what do you think? my sh!t is portable. mwalker.
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By digital_bastard Tue Sep 07, 2004 3:40 pm
There seems to a lot of confusion between the roles of producers and songwriters. I'd say that the current trend, at least in hip hop production, is that the so called producers are more or less a blend of song writers and producers.
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By stryke Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:46 pm
[quote="mwalker"]i will rent a hotel room

:shock:
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By kybeats Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:51 pm
???/\/\/\ LOL :lol: :D :lol: :roll:

By Man VS Machine Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:00 pm
There seems to a lot of confusion between the roles of producers and songwriters. I'd say that the current trend, at least in hip hop production, is that the so called producers are more or less a blend of song writers and producers.


In HIP HOp the song writer is the vocalist or rapper, the producer is ether the beat maker and producer or just a producer that with the artist picks what beats to use. Becuse of this the producer nore rapper can claim to be the sole songwriter with out some kind of agreement. I think and this is just my opinion, but hip tracks for the most part are considered beats and not songs because of the repetitive percussive nature of the music.