Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By mfbeta Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:27 am
IVE STARTED TO SAMPLE FROM IT SINCE I HAVE SO MUCH ON IT AND WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY...IS THERE TOO MUCH COMPRESSION/ETC ON THE MUSIC FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GET A NICE PUNCHY DRUM OR A WARM BASSLINE...I SAMPLE INTO MY 16BIT KORG ELECTRIBE ES1...CHOP UP/ADD EFFECTS/ETC...THEN I SAMPLE THAT INTO AN MPC 60...WHICH WOULD BE BETTER AS FAR AS PUNCHY DRUMS WOULD GO CD OR VINYL?
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By Cheech Fri Oct 01, 2004 8:31 am
Try writing without caps lock, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SHOUTING!!!
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By TicToc Fri Oct 01, 2004 9:05 am
1) I wouldnt recommend sampling from an ipod. Mp3 compression is terrible, removes a lot of the frequencies (particularly the high end). Mp3 compression literally drops data out of a sound to make it fit. This means a loss of sound quality in a bad way.

2) Why the hell would you sample into an Electribe and THEN into 60, when you could sample directly into the 60 in the first place? Sampling a sample muddies up the sample, and causes "generational loss". Kinda like taking a photo of a photo.
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By Lampdog Fri Oct 01, 2004 1:18 pm
I don't see anything wrong with sampling from MP3's.
Some MP3's have very good quality depending on what
MP3 compression method they were recorded with.

IPod is fine, vinyl is fine, everything is game. I sample from
anywhere and everywhere.
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By mfbeta Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:40 pm
Why the hell would you sample into an Electribe and THEN into 60, when you could sample directly into the 60 in the first place?


i do this because its sooo much easier to chop and filter my sounds...anyone who uses an electribe knows...its not too shabby when it comes to sample editing
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By cyrus Fri Oct 01, 2004 4:57 pm
im not sure about mp3s..... i mean they are game; but i noticed when i convert my beats to mp3s to post online, they are **** just about ruined! THey dont sound the same..........Subtle things that make the beat that much better.....like location of sounds and clarity of certain sounds.

I gues with an already mastered recording, it would be fine, but

would converting the files to wav help? or is the data already lost?
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By ieism Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:01 pm
Hmmm.
I'm gonna have to jump in here and ruin your day. :wink:
If you have an I-Pod, you most likely have a computer too. Wouldn't it be easier to cut and loop samples on a computer? Computerscreens tend to be a big bigger than samplers, and their filters will sound better too.
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By mfbeta Sat Oct 02, 2004 7:14 am
Wouldn't it be easier to cut and loop samples on a computer?


maybe so but i prefer hands on control if i used a pc id be using my eyes and not really my ears...im more creative when i have limits
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By aaron Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:16 pm
if u buy a song from the itunes store its a high quality file. bout as high as it gets

but that doesnt mean its a good thing

sample from an ipod... ha
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By Lampdog Sat Oct 02, 2004 3:55 pm
mfbeta wrote:
Wouldn't it be easier to cut and loop samples on a computer?


maybe so but i prefer hands on control if i used a pc id be using my eyes and not really my ears...im more creative when i have limits


That's why you have speakers on your PC.

There are different conversion rates for MP3's that's why some sound bad and others don't. When you post a song on the net sometimes the site software or admin will automatically downgrade your original format just a touch for space or streaming reasons.

Sampling from MP3's is not bad at all it's just the source MP3 might hve been created using a low KBPS rate. I always use 192 or above and it's crystal clear.

All this "sampling from mp3 is bad news" talk is ridiculous. Just know and understand what KBPS you are dealing with and you are fine from there.
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By kevindetroit Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:13 am
If you got full AIFF's on your iPod then you should be cool. I wouldn't sample off mp3/aac's, but that's me. Remember if you are sampling thru the headphone jack your dealing with the cheap ass amp in the ipod headphone jack (which in my opinion is no better than a $20 walkman). If you get the dock you can use the line out which is better. But like lampdog said, everything is game. So it just ends up being that if it sounds good to you, use it.
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By young_keyz Mon Oct 04, 2004 4:23 pm
Its not about if its good or bad but if the sound you is what your looking for. I mean by you using a i pod to do some sampling you could be creating a sound that maybe a few years from now if you blew somebody may be wondering "how he get his sound like that". Premo likes 12bit sound and somebody might like 24bit sound but at the end of the day its how you freak that sound that will make a hit or miss. Do what you
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By bboutit Tue Oct 05, 2004 3:50 pm
Lampdog wrote:I don't see anything wrong with sampling from MP3's.
Some MP3's have very good quality depending on what
MP3 compression method they were recorded with.

IPod is fine, vinyl is fine, everything is game. I sample from
anywhere and everywhere.


Co-Sign, if I get my hands on it and I hear something, it's over....