Help with drums....

because right now i'm havin' a hard time programmin my joints.Let's say i gotta track at 93 B.P.M.I lay the drums first because i'm workin with no specific melody or sample.Should i lay the hats in sync with the metronome and then go back and fill it in or is there a better way? I know i need to overlay some of the drums to make them heavier.I was just wonderin' what's the best way to start.THanx fam.

personally i lay down the hats to mesh with the kik and snare. if i dont start withthe drums on point i cant even get into the rest of the track. try turning off the metrome whe u lay the hats. sometimes i use the note repeat to freek it too

I think there is a danger of over complicating things, just find sounds that u like and put them together.

u need not concern urself with much more than that.

u have ur tack at 93 bpm just program the drums so they sound good, why do u need to think about syncin to ur metronome? lol


anyhow I think premo said it best

"some people approach the creative from the scientific standpoint"

Good lookin fellas.I'll take both of your answers into consideration.Especially about gettin' too scientific.

i think it all depends on the feel you going for... just start with something simple at first like 1/8 timing on the hats for 2 bars or sumttin and do a little kick snare pattern...build up your melodies with samples or synths and after that u can delete the hi hat track and get more technical with it by adding variations at different time signatures..

Thanx yo,Good lookin out.

I never lay drums first on a sample based track. I always start by composing my chops first with the metronome, and then I match the drums to that. That way, your drums feel and sound more tailor made to match the song.

On original keyboard beats, I will start with drums to get a groove. However, I usually have a riff in my head already so I get the drums to accompany that riff.

Through my experiences, I usually get dead drums when I go in without an overall musical vision. If I go in with a boom bap, I usually come out with just a boom bap and not a vibed out made-for-this-song pattern.

Frankly wrote:I never lay drums first on a sample based track. I always start by composing my chops first with the metronome, and then I match the drums to that. That way, your drums feel and sound more tailor made to match the song.

On original keyboard beats, I will start with drums to get a groove. However, I usually have a riff in my head already so I get the drums to accompany that riff.

Through my experiences, I usually get dead drums when I go in without an overall musical vision. If I go in with a boom bap, I usually come out with just a boom bap and not a vibed out made-for-this-song pattern.

I feel what you saying.

What i do is put the snares in, then freestyle everything else...but it also depends on the track. I mean, sometimes you gotta do the hats first, or the sample first, etc....i never really started doing the sample first, but ive been trying it and its working good.

if your track needs to be at 93 bpm....and you are starting with the drums..then i would just step in the snare. Then lay a simple 1/8 hihat. Then freestyle the kick in.

Frankly wrote:I never lay drums first on a sample based track. I always start by composing my chops first with the metronome, and then I match the drums to that. That way, your drums feel and sound more tailor made to match the song.

On original keyboard beats, I will start with drums to get a groove. However, I usually have a riff in my head already so I get the drums to accompany that riff.

Through my experiences, I usually get dead drums when I go in without an overall musical vision. If I go in with a boom bap, I usually come out with just a boom bap and not a vibed out made-for-this-song pattern.

I used to be the same but now Im mixing up all my techniques to get a wider variety of beat styles, and I think my drum programming has improved since i have been starting with the drums 1st.

cos it forces me to program drum patterns that can stand on they own and sound dope without a sample.