Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By issues Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:40 pm
I figured out somethig while i was on the bus on the way home:

I used fruity loops for 5 or 6 years, so I basically know it like the back of my hand (and I still find more stuff to use). Anyway, I just bought an mpc 2000xl, and I am learning how to sequence (my sampling is nearly perfect).
And then it hit me: what better way to learn how to sequence than reconstructing some of my beats from FL? That way, I already know how the beat is gonna sound. I know how I made the beat, and just basically record the samples over again, re-do the drums, and track it out.

I was just wondering if anybody else did this when they moved to their mp from a different production medium. I know I can't be the only one.

peace
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 21, 2005 5:39 pm
I've re-constructed many of my ASR10 beats on my Triton and MPC. But they just didn't have the same oomph. I went back and finished them on ASR10. So now I stick with whatever machine I start on and that's the machine I finish that song on. I've re-constructed 2kxl beats on the Triton and they come out better some of the time because I have more effects and tweakable params availalbe. Re-constructing Triton beats on 2kxl, never bothered.

I have a 2kxl, ASR10 and TRiton Extreme. I hardly ever MIDI them together, I like to concentrate on one machine at a time and learn it's functions from start to finish with a single song.

By Chisel Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:55 am
My favorite way to learn a new piece of music gear is to try and remake a song I hear on the radio or on CD. I always take the hardware to the limit when I'm attempting to recreate a song. I thought about making new mixes of my old songs, but I never got around to it. I usually just make new songs instead. It would be interesting to take one of the first complete songs I composed on my Roland MC-303 and reconstruct it using my current equipment. Talk about a fidelity enhancement :)
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By juniorcartel Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:20 am
5-6 years ? you sure FL been out that long ??
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By issues Sat Jan 22, 2005 6:48 am
yep, believe it or not

i started using it in 99 or 2000 (it gets fuzzy around then)
i was using fruity loops 2.5 or 2.7 or something like that. They used to be under/owned by cakewalk, if im not mistaken.

Now, they've changed the name to FL studio (sounds fancy)...

So, I've basically been using it since it came out...I think

its been around longer than most people think. Its just that the "famous average producer" (9th wonder) so happens to use the software. thats when people started to take notice. thats wen they raised the price and came up with a million different packages for different prices.

Its really good software. The amount of stuff one can do on there is amazing. but...i have an mp now, so my alma mater fruity loops is going to have to take an extended break.

pleasure to drop some knowledge on ya, junior

peace
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By homershines Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:26 pm
If your FruityLoops tracks were also saved in midi format, you can save them as Standard Midi Files. They will open in the MPC. You'll need to save the individual samples from the FL tracks as sound files and transfer them to the proper MPC pads though.

It's possible to get it exact, but takes a minute to plan out.

Peace.
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By issues Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:01 pm
thanks, but thats not gonna happen

i have NEVER used midi anything. pure sampling is my style. (with a bunch of filters and eqs of course) thats something im learning as we speak. I have been extremely broke and havent gotten around to getting a keyboard. its on the way, tho.

peace
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By dubmunkey Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:52 am
except that both fl and mpc whilst not nessarily using midi internally are both based on the midi protocol

greg

By jonespnice Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:58 pm
I've re-constructed many of my ASR10 beats on my Triton and MPC. But they just didn't have the same oomph. I went back and finished them on ASR10
When you tried to remake them on the triton were you using samples? If so were the sample rate the same? I read somewhere that the asr sampled at 44.1khz or 30khz and I was wondering if samples on the triton would sound the same if they were at the same sample rate as the ASR. peace.

By Qwerty Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:30 am
i never have. partly because most of the samples i used back then were off a tv show that played classical music or i used the synths on FL. but i lost everything when i gave up my comp. what i have done recently is recreate the melodies to one of my old beats on a keyboard my friend let me borrow, but i'm not too fond of keyboards or synths anymore so i only sample. it was nice hearing it again though.

FL really came out in 99? wow i started using it in 2000 or '01, when i began making beats, that's crazy. it's a long time for my young ass.