BPM techniques.

hope i can get somw feedback on the real.

i chopped this loop in soundforge, using auto region, (i dont think i can go back to chopping on the mp, unfortunately) and the original song, a souls song from the 70s, slow as ever, is reading 135.7 bpm i used a i bar loop which came in at 138. saved it as a snd, imported it in to mp, set the tempo at 138 and voila a perfect loop, i just adjuust it slightly to create a gap for effect when it loops around again, laid down my drums, and away i am banging. i really like the song, but problem is, who the hell is gonna spit at 138 bpm it doenst sound fast, but it is gonna be a problem when a dj tries to blend, also most hip hop is like late 80s to 100, or there about.

am i doing something wrong, i would like it to be in the late 90s (bpm) but i tried time streching it, and it falls off, or its just that song, in a matter of fact the bpm for most of the songs are like 120 +
give me a shout on if there is any way around this.

i dont use soundforge, but is there a way to halve the bpm? u could do that then time strtech it to like 86 or whatever.

ok i gonna give that a try, i a experimenting with recycle, plaYing with the pitch m but no luck, the mp is on and the computer is up and running, ...

do u have ableton live? thats the best shit i used for timestretch. recycyle only works good when u are choppin to the exact tempo. i dont ever use it as a timestretch.

Doesn't sound forge have timestretch?

yes it does, but from 138 to 100 or below, just sound like crap
really crap,, i dont know if this is possible, what if i had to calcualte on the keyboard how much an octave works outs to be, in bpm, then timestrtch it back up again or pitch it up??

i gonna check out ableton, see if the got a demo

thanks guys

Sounds like you are going to have to use pitch control to slow it somewhat or just make a house track. Next time when choosing loops prepare for the tempo. Timestretching up is more stable than timestretching down. Maybe like Blnger suggested go with Live or Recycle with 16 slices for a 1 bar loop and alot of decay on the end over 20ms in order to pitch it down.

I don't see the problem. Timestretch from 138 to 170 or something, then set the mpc to 85 bpms and let it loop for two bars.

digital_bastard wrote:I don't see the problem. Timestretch from 138 to 170 or something, then set the mpc to 85 bpms and let it loop for two bars.

U F U C K I N G DIGITAL BASTARD YOU, IT WORKED,

I LOVE YOU MAN !!

Hey hey, easy now

Glad it worked!

whats the science behind this, u give me fish, just show mw how to cast my hook and line

If soundforge claims the sample runs at a certain tempo, then it also matches half that tempo, or twice that tempo, but different number of bars.

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i think i got it, kinda

Let's say you have a 1-bar loop running at 130 BPMs that you sample into your mpc. You can either run your MPC at 130 bpms and trigger the sample at the beginning of each bar, or your can run the mpc at half that and trigger it only every second bar.

Digital Bastard is right that`s how alot of house mixes are done. double time ahead or behind with the correct number of bars. Old school way or if you are using logic compress the midi file.