Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By DOVESKI Tue Jul 29, 2003 5:07 pm
Say I'm recording samples from borrowed synths/modules into Wavelab for future usage in a rack or soft sampler...is it necessary to sample every note, or can i get away with just sampling say middle c and setting that as my base note on the sampler??? This is especially important my friend is letting me borrow an XV3080 and I want to get some nice bass sounds.

If I do have to sample more than one note can you give me a reason why. Thanks.
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By Dr.Foo Tue Jul 29, 2003 6:38 pm
read the multisampling tutorial. If you can sample each note in an octave, do it, The more you alter the pitch of the sound, the more noticable it is.
one might not be a big deal, or even 2 notes. 3 notes changed will be noticably different sounding.

I like to grab 3 total octaves, and that is usually enough to work around any issues you have. ITs not that big, 3 octaves of notes should take up less then 3mb or so of memory, so its worth it if you want to be able to reproduce the sound fairly.
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By DOVESKI Tue Jul 29, 2003 7:08 pm
Thanks Foo, thats the answer I was looking for, but I should have clarified, this is not for the MPC2000Xl, its for a s950, still necessary on a rack sampler?

I know for the sounds i really like, I will sample 3 octaves regardless. Thanks again!

By thynctank Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:41 am
Still necessary, holmes.

One or two per octave should do you when it's not a real piano or anything that complex.

Ciao,
-tank.
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By MPC-Tutor Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:55 am
I would go for at least 2, but 3 is better. 4 is overkill for a synthesised instrument and 1 starts to sound poor when you tune it down more than -30.

C E G

or C E G# are the best notes in my optinion.
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By Dr.Foo Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:08 pm
for a s950 it should still be the same. Tutor is right, that 3 is (or should be) enough to get replication w/o too much loss, but I just like the ease of having a whole octave already sampled and I can just load it and go from there. Just my personal pref.

I used to just grab 3 notes, but I decided that grabbing 2 more was not really that much effort and in the long run it would help me by simply getting a "no cutting corners" sample philosophy into my system.

PZ

PS DONT FRONT COP THE SOUND MODULE FROM GUITAR CENTER, SAMPLE IT AND TAKE THAT BAD BOY BACK. COP A TRTION, SAMPLE IT AND TAKE THAT BAD BOY BACK...YOU GOTS 30 DAYS......
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By DOVESKI Thu Jul 31, 2003 2:51 am
LOL!

thanks fellas, i like this place.

The only board not filled with retards i think.

By homershines Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:25 pm
There was a nice article about sampling from vintage synths in EQ magazine a few months ago. They suggested a pretty good midi sequence to record the keyboard sounds into you DAW, DAT or whatever. I made a copy of that sequence. If you are interested, I can hook you up with a SMF of it.

peace.

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By D_Samp Mon Aug 04, 2003 5:42 pm
yep thats the ticket.

i have a Midi template in Sonar2XL, you can set one up in any midi player and record to HD or whatever your medium is (not the mpc, this is a pc thing)

anyway this template just plays a few seconds of each note across 3 octaves, leaving enough space between each for any Decay/Release to fade out.

i just sync the module via midi, arm an audio track to record, click play/record and then go make a coffee. its done by the time im back, then i dump the audio file into Soundforge, extract the regions (also automated) and then use a batch processor to name the files and im done.

i pity the person who has to do that process using only an S950, but then again you will have the "sound" of the old 12 bit convertors which may be your thing. i prefer sampling in 44.1/24 bit and having the choice of getting grungy later.

good luck. have fun....
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By DOVESKI Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:57 pm
Well thats great I can get a copy of Sonar2XL, but where can I find this template you speak off. Can you email it to me???

And I love my s950, its my favorite sampler (I actually had a z4 but returned it and bought a s950 and s1100 from eBay, catch my drift, so I guess that is my thing).

By D_Samp Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:16 pm
heh

im being sly by saying that because i actually own a S950.


as for the template yeah i could email it to you. thing is you can make it in a few minutes too!

its just a block of notes being played from low to high at regular intervals so that all the hits/sounds will be as exact as possible, except for the pitch of course!

and yeah i thoroughly recommend Sonar2XL for loop users because it has an auto-tempo function much like Acid does, yet much more power then Acid.

and if you like it, buy it! :P