Lloyd banks bangers bassline ?

produced by alc,
how did alc get that bassline to hit like that and not be muddy outta the sample? im having a hard time usinf lp filters of the mpc 4k. it's either too muddy or it distorts when the volume is turned up
wat do i have to do to get it to hit hard and still sound like a bassline. The sample im using has a bassline but with other instr. layered on it I wamt just the bass ?

high pass you bassline, maybe compress the hell outta it too..

greg

i thought it would b lowpass, it filters out the highs...but i may b wrong

i've often wondered about this too

Me also. The beat is very tight. I'm not a fan of lloyd banks though.

Rem wrote:produced by alc,
how did alc get that bassline to hit like that and not be muddy outta the sample? im having a hard time usinf lp filters of the mpc 4k. it's either too muddy or it distorts when the volume is turned up
wat do i have to do to get it to hit hard and still sound like a bassline. The sample im using has a bassline but with other instr. layered on it I wamt just the bass ?

You'll need to play with EQ and compression in order for it to sound right. Low pass filters will only take you so far. Search this forum for the thread on EQ tips.

hi-pass lets the hi's pass through

lo-pass lets the lows pass through..or at least thats what I thought...

Smoove03 wrote:hi-pass lets the hi's pass through

lo-pass lets the lows pass through..or at least thats what I thought...

Thats what it is. I think maybe he's suggesting to use a hpf to get rid of some of the bottom that could make it sound mudddy. I guess it could work. Maybe if you set the hpf to a very low frequency.

Like I said. If you want a bassline you need to use LOW PASS FILTERS. In order to get it to "sound right" you need to use EQ to cut(mostly) or boost certain frequencies.

Why would you use a High Pass ever on a bassline?? That doesn't make much sense. It makes more sense to use the low pass then tweak it using EQ.

Geez, it's like the blind leading the blind in here.

I was just trying to interpret what he was saying. I never said thats what I would suggest doing.

BassLINE wrote:Like I said. If you want a bassline you need to use LOW PASS FILTERS. In order to get it to "sound right" you need to use EQ to cut(mostly) or boost certain frequencies.

Why would you use a High Pass ever on a bassline?? That doesn't make much sense. It makes more sense to use the low pass then tweak it using EQ.

Geez, it's like the blind leading the blind in here.

In this case the Blind are the ones who don't know why you'd use a High pass filter on a bass sound.

Try it and see what you can figure out. it is very common to do so, nd any MS-20 owner should know the damage that can be done.

"Why would you use a High Pass ever on a bassline?? That doesn't make much sense. It makes more sense to use the low pass then tweak it using EQ."

hmmm. I think you should learn/use some HPFs.. As one dude suggests: "maybe he's suggesting to use a hpf to get rid of some of the bottom that could make it sound mudddy". Yep, this is our first advantage! You will never get a powerful bass sound whilst your bassdrum and bassline have some overlapping frequencies and the only way to achieve this is to use a HPF

Elmacaco then hints at our second advantage: Any HPF with resonance (MS20 in his example) will absolutely crucify a non HPFiltered bass sound. Try and visualise what resonance does to a sound (feedbacks at the cutoff frequency which helps to give this frequency a boost). So adding a little res to your HPF will give you and incredible bass sound. You cant do this with a LPF as by the time to you have go the resonance frequency down to the frequency you want to boost, the filter is almost closed and you have no sound left.

Normal HPF bass sound (cutoff at say 50hz):
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Now added some resonance (cutoff at say 50hz):
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So here we get a very musical boost at our chosen sweet spot . This can be subtle or incredibly violent. Maybe ill record and post some MS20 examples over the weekend..

"Geez, it's like the blind leading the blind in here."

Yes, it would appear so...

Naw, I still feel that it's counter intuitive. I'd rather use EQ to fine tune after using the low pass filter. Yeah sure, I can see how you can use it for that purpose but it's just not really necessary. EQ would allow you to be more precise with your cutting and boosting.

And, yes, when I see so-called producers debating over what high-pass and low-pass filters do I see it as the blind leading the blind.

But by all means, continue to use your high-pass filters on your basslines.

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