Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By trufo Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:29 pm
I compiled all the drum samples I've amassed over the years into a folder on my pc, and its 1.3 GIGS.

Do you think it'd be best to go for a SCSI harddrive or just build drum kits (which is gonna take forever)

I think having too many sounds is a bad thing

By Beat God Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:45 pm
wow! mine is 6.4 gb

and I only bought 1 drum sample cd in my whole life.
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By Valdon Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:29 am
Mine Is About 8gigs

By theminsk420 Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:19 am
too many sounds is never a bad thing...organizing them can be a pain in the ass tho....
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By Lampdog Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:37 am
12.0 GB (12,945,928,192 bytes)

Is what my "Samples" folder says.

That's only on my pc too.

By dafuture Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:05 am
Mine all together is 12.6 gigs and oer 60000 files and 117 folders
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By punkdISCO Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:56 am
Mine is zero gb and Im thinking about downsizing this..

trufo wrote:I think having too many sounds is a bad thing


Yep - having too many sounds at your disposal is one of the best ways to kill creativity. How many times have we fired up the studio and then spent 4 hours auditioning presets and samples before going to bed frustrated and drained of any creative spark?!!

There is an interview with John OO Fleming in Future Music 168 (huge UK remixer/producer/etc) anyway, he states that despite having a huge library of sounds he always comes back to 1 of 3 kicks.

All of this is why I love all my memory-less analogues. Im forced to not go looking for 'that' sound which in reality you will never find, rather, you have to make 'that' sound - usually takes a minute and will be 100% what you were looking for. The best you can hope for with a sample is a 90% match on your desired sound.

Delete all your samples!! Okay, keep a few but delete the rest :)

By fader-pro Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:07 pm
I have a bucking funch of samples...I seem to come back to the same ones over and over though...I mostly collect them out of habbit these days...Same with guitars...
By elmacaco Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:05 pm
punkdISCO wrote:All of this is why I love all my memory-less analogues. Im forced to not go looking for 'that' sound which in reality you will never find, rather, you have to make 'that' sound - usually takes a minute and will be 100% what you were looking for. The best you can hope for with a sample is a 90% match on your desired sound.


OK Punk Disco, you can get an AMEN!!!!

I always laugh when people say about how making sounds takes too long, I can create the sound I'm looking for faster than finding a preset that fits, and it's more fun too. I also like the lack of memory, it makes the process a bit of a performance, where you have to get there from wherever you are. Analog is great :D .

I think that's part of the appeal of old samplers for me. The small memory makes you have to make decisions that narrow things down and get on with it. This guy flashiusclay said it best talking about the Sp-1200

ANother advantage that some people would debate is really not an advantage, is the simplicity of it's layout. The 10 second rule forces you, FORCES YOU to be a crafty sample chopper. You can't really take too many loops per beat so you have to chop loops up, and you can often find a more suitable way to arrange notes you chopped than the way you found them on the record, and this promotes creativity and also helps to hide your tracks if you wanted to try to not clear a sample. Also the small sample second window makes you make for got damn sure that every sngle chop you have is hot, because with only 10 secs you simply have no room for bullsht. The weak is weeded from the strong. Your sht don't get too cluttered I find.
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By Tha S-ence Sat Nov 05, 2005 9:58 pm
Presets?! That's y everything sounds the same on the radio, stupid ass triton sounds.....any way my suggextion is to jus make a session where you pick out ur favorite sounds and separate them. If u gonna use presets, u better eq compress and filter the shiz outta em if they sound like that radio shit. Cats start pullin out, the "you sound like"

By Beat God Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:57 pm
There is a difference between getting a few gigs of drums all at once and compiling them over the years. when u do it as i have done it u know every single sample that u have and it speeds up creativity cause u instantly know where 2 go. i also have tons of keys and know where to go for what sound. as with anything its about knowing your sh!t. and 4 me drums are all about stacking

By Beat God Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:34 pm
oh and dat using preset talk is old if u buy a steinway grand piano that thing is only making 1 sound. concentrate on actually learning how to play keys, making arrangements etc. tweaking sounds isnt rocket science and i say this as a user of reaktor so i can build a synth

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By DJAwethentic Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:52 pm
How do you guys make good sounds using analogs and all that ish? Is that similar to all the kind of plug ins in some computer programs like FL, using an OSC or different synth modules, tweaking the knobs, and turning that into a drum sample, or even a real instrument sound? I never was good with that crap, is there any way you can get real good with that, or any tips, or actual pieces of equipment that are good for that type of thing. I want to get a keyboard with that kind of capability as well so hopefully I can get good doing that.

By elmacaco Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:23 pm
The problem beat god is you have many artists in Hip hop and pop in general who are marginally talented at best using presets to death, and the focus of the useage is more about the sound than the playing, so if you use the same sound prominantly it's like using a sample ion the same way as someone else.

the virtual analogs in Fruity are similar in function to analog synths, you can learn to program your own sounds on that and extrapolate to analog or digital synths,

Making your own sounds is like anything, you get better the more you do it, and some of us know that the best sounds a synth can make are never the presets.

My sample folder (just computer stuff) is over 6 gigs.

My songs (just mixes) 8 gigs.
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By fareed Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:55 am
I say definitely make kits outta your drums that way you can get rid of sounds you don't use or remove them from your drive if space is an issue. Just as others stated use can make new tacks quicker because you not wasting time searching for what snare works well with this kick. Nothing is like having a hot idea and then losing the spark, searching for drumz. Just my two cents yall already said it all.